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re: Judge rules Trump can't block users on Twitter - Say it Unconstitutional

Posted on 5/23/18 at 2:45 pm to
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 5/23/18 at 2:45 pm to
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A company denying access is significantly different than the president blocking access to public comments he makes.


Ffs, at least everyone should recognize that no one is prevented from reading a tweet, nor are they prevented from broadcasting their own opinions about a tweet or anything else. What they want is to be able to use Trump’s twitter follower list as their own. Just more liberals wanting access to something they didn’t build on their own. If they were worth listening to, they’d have their own twitter followers.
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 2:46 pm to
This would be a great decision.

Use this as part of the sledge hammer to start going after these jackasses that evade FOIA and other transparency measures.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
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Posted on 5/23/18 at 2:46 pm to
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Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 2:48 pm to
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Ffs, at least everyone should recognize that no one is prevented from reading a tweet, nor are they prevented from broadcasting their own opinions about a tweet or anything else. What they want is to be able to use Trump’s twitter follower list as their own. Just more liberals wanting access to something they didn’t build on their own. If they were worth listening to, they’d have their own twitter followers.


Their motive is irrelevant.

Jesus Christ some yall need to sue the frick out of whatever schools you matriculated from for gross malfeasance.

Could Bernie have told me "sorry, you're just harassing me over political differences" and banned me? Nope.

His Twitter account became the public realm the moment he used it in his capacity as POTUS. PERIOD
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84784 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 2:56 pm to
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Ffs, at least everyone should recognize that no one is prevented from reading a tweet, nor are they prevented from broadcasting their own opinions about a tweet or anything else


Yeah, it isn't difficult to get around being blocked, but not everyone knows that.

It's much ado about nothing IMO.
Posted by Cruiserhog
Little Rock
Member since Apr 2008
10460 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 2:58 pm to
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Except it’s his own fricking twitter account.


and when he gets out of office he can go back to blocking people but when he uses it as his forum for national policy, tough shite, suck it up snowflake
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 2:59 pm to
So I can go call Hillary Clinton a rapist defending traitorous piece of shite every day and she cannot block me?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/23/18 at 2:59 pm to
Lol
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57438 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 3:01 pm to
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I already posted the link to the case from early 2017 which set the precedent.

so there are no rules per say. Just something what a lowly judge said which isnt a rule. Precedent is changed everyday.

and i could give 2 shits what that criminal does on twitter.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44017 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 3:03 pm to
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and when he gets out of office he can go back to blocking people but when he uses it as his forum for national policy, tough shite, suck it up snowflake

You’re literally making this up.
You don’t know any more about this than does anyone else.
Just bc you want it to be a certain way, doesn’t make it so.
This post was edited on 5/23/18 at 3:04 pm
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 3:04 pm to
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Posted by BamaFan365
Member since Sep 2011
2347 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 3:08 pm to
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Incorrect, my opinions are educated and rooted in facts, unlike most opinions here and thus carry more weight.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 3:10 pm to
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You’re literally making this up.
You don’t know any more about this than does anyone else.
Just bc you want it to be a certain way, doesn’t make it so.


CruiserHog is an idiot of epic proportions but in this case he is right.

Basically the court has extended FOIA laws to social media sites, and included posting into that. The difference being unlike say email where you have to send in a request, social media sites are dynamic and actually allow a user access anyway, so all the judges have ruled is that politicians can't block that access any more than they can just refuse to turn over emails when requested (well some can do so, as we've seen)

But, before a politician is elected, and once they leave office, they are no longer bound by FOIA requests. Meaning you couldn't request that the government turn over any emails that Barry Obama may have sent yesterday, for example. Because he's no longer in government.

That's all this ruling has done and people need to relax. Jerk offs can STILL be banned by Twitter or Facebook or whatever if they violate TOS. You don't get to be an a-hole and then sue when Twitter blocks you claiming they are violating your rights, because you don't have a right to be on Twitter. You only have a right not be blocked by the government including any elected leaders.
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5708 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 3:11 pm to
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Their motive is irrelevant.

Jesus Christ some yall need to sue the frick out of whatever schools you matriculated from for gross malfeasance.

Could Bernie have told me "sorry, you're just harassing me over political differences" and banned me? Nope.

His Twitter account became the public realm the moment he used it in his capacity as POTUS. PERIOD


So you agree that every individual can read a Trump tweet and they are not being prevented from spouting whatever response they want on Twitter? We are just discussing whether they should be able to use Trump’s followers list as their own audience? Trump isn’t blocking anyone from reading his tweets and he isn’t preventing them from announcing their own thoughts to whatever audience they’ve managed to build on their own.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48305 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 3:12 pm to
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I would assume this would include any government employee or branch that has a twitter page?


No shite. This would open the floodgates. Luckily, this is just a district court and will get overturned.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123887 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 3:16 pm to
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President Trump's Twitter account is a public forum
But his private twitter account is not. This nitwit's ruling will be overturned, or every actor, athlete, and elected official will be subject to harassment. In concert with that ruling, the WH Press Corps should no longer be restricted to those with a Press Pass. Access to nonvisitor areas in the capitol should no longer be restricted, because some of the public is allowed in. Political, Congressional, and Judicial aides should no longer be restricted based on partisanship. Etc. Etc.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 3:18 pm to
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No shite. This would open the floodgates. Luckily, this is just a district court and will get overturned.


No it won't this judge ruled based on precedent and the preceding case was appealed and the higher court remanded and let the lower court ruling stand.

Amazing that you dumb shits are suddenly against FOIA laws.

Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 3:21 pm to
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Judge Naomi Reice Buchwald, of the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York, said President Trump's Twitter account is a public forum and blocking people who reply to his tweets with differing opinions constitutes viewpoint discrimination, which violates the First Amendment.


Just when you think the sky screamers, especially the sky screamers in government can't get any more pathetic, they find a new rock bottom to dig deeper down to.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57438 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 3:21 pm to
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and when he gets out of office he can go back to blocking people but when he uses it as his forum for national policy, tough shite, suck it up snowflake
it is like he thinks he can use the derogatory term for the liberal whiny babies like himself on the people that call him that, and thinks it works.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 3:25 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/27/23 at 8:16 am
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