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re: Judge appointed by O'Bama rules illegals can legally carry firearms and ammo
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:27 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:27 am to SlowFlowPro
This attempt is very telling. Straight out of communism.
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Stated goal of communism for the USA.
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Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate and old-fashioned.
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And "We the People" is only discussing who formed the Government.
Stated goal of communism for the USA.
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Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:27 am to i am dan
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Man, trying to jump those mental hurdles huh?
Brother, you posted a Senate website as your argument.
I'm steering this discussion that you're pushing off the rails.
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Dismiss items just because you think you're right.
I went into detail about how they are inapplicable to this discussion.
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The preamble is an important part. It communicates the intention of the constitution. So yeah, it's part of the document.
Sure, and all that says is that the people created the Constitution. It speaks nothing to this particular discussion.
Again, I explained this in detail.
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It says "we the people". I think we know who it's talking about.
And what did "we the people" do, per the Preamble?
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They weren't thinking of people in Yemen when they wrote it.
You may want to check with James Madison on that.
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Citizens of America? Yeah, that's probably what they meant.
Not according to James Madison.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:28 am to momentoftruth87
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If someone is a foreigner and not naturalized is it really their govt?
They're still protected from it whether or not it's "their" government.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:29 am to BCreed1
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This attempt is very telling. Straight out of communism.
So is disarming people when you come to power.
Dont be one of those people.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:29 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Of course it does.
No it does not in context of protected Citizen Rights vs It applying to illegals.
I understand you want to morph it into that. But it's not happening.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:29 am to BCreed1
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This attempt is very telling. Straight out of communism.
Says the guy promoting government taking over our lives
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Stated goal of communism for the USA.
Are you a troll or a high school dropout?
In what way did those words you typed/quoted man logical sense to you?
You are the one discrediting the Constitution by claiming this "foreign invasion" makes it inadequate and old-fashioned. You're literally shitting on it out of fear.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:30 am to Night Vision
So we’re saying it’s legal for people invading our country to possess weapons.
Makes perfect sense.
Makes perfect sense.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:30 am to elprez00
right?Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:30 am to RogerTheShrubber
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The constitution protects people from government.
The Constitution protects American Citizens from Gov.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:31 am to RogerTheShrubber
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The constitution protects people from government. You have very backward thinking.
No The Constitution protects the American Citizens from Gov.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:32 am to BCreed1
Interesting. None of the constitution applies to tourists?
They aren’t citizens after all.
They aren’t citizens after all.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:32 am to elprez00
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So we’re saying it’s legal for people invading our country to possess weapons.
Emotional thinking in full display.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:33 am to SlowFlowPro
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How is defending individual rights and the 2nd Amendment "eroding away the Constitution"? I am literally doing the opposite.
Picking and choosing when the Constitution applies b/c of your feeling is a progressive behavior, specifically with the 2A.
Because the constitution doesn't grant these rights to other nationalities.
People are saying that if these illegal aliens are granted constitutional citizen rights, how long will it be before they can vote in federal elections.
Which is what mass immigration has been about for decades. Import a huge voter block to cement election wins.
Dilute conservative votes. And they have a damn good point. It's happening.
Do I need to spell it out clearer for you? You may not agree with them, but it's hard to argue against their point.
It's all an efffort that's been in place for a long time.
13 million illegals (that we know of) is a potential big voter block.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:33 am to roadGator
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Interesting. None of the constitution applies to tourists?
They aren’t citizens after all.
As stated earlier in this thread (or the other one), it's clear they can be arrested and executed on the spot by LEO Judge Dredd style.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:34 am to i am dan
One thing these brainiacs are forgetting most of these ppl are coming from countries that are designated as terrorist and enemy nations , but fk it.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:34 am to BCreed1
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No The Constitution protects the American Citizens from Gov.
Someone should tell all those tourists who come here and shoot guns.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:35 am to i am dan
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Because the constitution doesn't grant these rights to other nationalities.
This statement is literally 100% wrong, though.
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People are saying that if these illegal aliens are granted constitutional citizen rights, how long will it be before they can vote in federal elections.
And our voting rights are specific to citizens only, as was specifically shown to you earlier.
As Maraist would say, "that dog don't hunt".
Also, the fact that certain rights are specific to citizenship and certain rights are not should inform you, logically, as to the differential in application.
Voting = specific to citizens
2nd Amendment = not specific to citizens
Or, are you going to argue like a progressive and ignore the text and proclaim the Constitution a "living document"?
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:35 am to i am dan
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Because the constitution doesn't grant these rights to other nationalities.
But youre apparently wanting government to make firearms off limits to non residents.
Which is gun control.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:35 am to SlowFlowPro
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How is defending individual rights and the 2nd Amendment "eroding away the Constitution"? I am literally doing the opposite.
No, you are literally trying to apply the constitution to every human on the planet. Thus eroding it.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:35 am to momentoftruth87
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One thing these brainiacs are forgetting most of these ppl are coming from countries that are designated as terrorist and enemy nations
Emotional appeal: amplified
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