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Jonathan Turley: When will the media accept that Trump is not a criminal target?

Posted on 4/4/18 at 12:30 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69251 posts
Posted on 4/4/18 at 12:30 pm
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In terminal medical cases, doctors often deal with patients who move through “stages” that begin with denial. These so-called Kübler-Ross stages can be a long road toward acceptance. A weird form of Kübler-Ross seems to have taken hold of the media. Rather than refusing to accept indicators of impending death, many journalists and analysts seem incapable of accepting signs that the Trump presidency could survive.

That painful process was more evident Tuesday night when the Washington Post reported that special counsel Robert Mueller told the White House last month that Trump was not considered a “target” but only a “subject” of the investigation. After a year of being assured that “bombshell” developments and “smoking gun” evidence was sealing the criminal case against Trump, the dissonance was too great for many who refuse to accept the obvious meaning of this disclosure.


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Mueller at this time apparently does not believe Trump meets the definition of a target or a “person as to whom the prosecutor or the grand jury has substantial evidence linking him or her to the commission of a crime and who, in the judgment of the prosecutor, is a putative defendant.” That would have been less notable when Mueller was appointed in 2017 than it is now, after more than a year, dozens of criminal counts, hundreds of thousands of documents, and a bevy of cooperating witnesses.



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The obvious point is that, after months of investigating Trump, Mueller still does not have sufficient evidence to make him a “target.” True, a “subject” can become a “target” and a “target” can then become a “defendant,” but so can a “witness.” Clearly, Trump is a subject since he was the subject of the election itself and directly involved in the underlying matters under investigation. What is new is that Mueller confirmed Trump’s status has not changed.


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This continued refusal to acknowledge positive developments for Trump is a disturbing pathology. Just because Trump is a subject of investigation does not mean he cannot become a target. Moreover, Mueller — as expected — indicated he will prepare a report on his investigation. This is a positive development for Trump. What it shows, however, is that Trump’s status has not changed but neither has the status of much of the coverage. Many media commentators clearly are stuck on denial and are a long way from acceptance in dealing with the legal status of Donald Trump.


Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University.

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Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
35968 posts
Posted on 4/4/18 at 12:33 pm to
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Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University. 

And, along with Glenn Greenwald, one of the few remaining civil libertarians on the left who haven't succumbed to knee-jerk veneration of the NSA, CIA and FBI and haven't found common cause with neoconservatives, all due to their hatred of one man.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32546 posts
Posted on 4/4/18 at 12:35 pm to
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This continued refusal to acknowledge positive developments for Trump is a disturbing pathology.

Yep, and he hit the nail on the head. The cognitive dissonance is so overwhelming that they cannot even acknowledge the possibility of a positive development. Everything is seen in a negative light and the BOMBSHELL TRUMP IS GOING DOWN FOR SURE NOW is always supposedly right around the corner. fricking sky screaming piece of shite media and journalists.
Posted by Wortivi22
Land of Mini Vans
Member since Dec 2007
855 posts
Posted on 4/4/18 at 12:37 pm to
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When will the media accept that Trump is not a criminal target?


Same as the chance of rain in tiger stadium
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 4/4/18 at 12:39 pm to
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And, along with Glenn Greenwald, one of the few remaining civil libertarians on the left who haven't succumbed to knee-jerk veneration of the NSA, CIA and FBI and haven't found common cause with neoconservatives, all due to their hatred of one man.


Add Alan Dersowhitz who suddenly became persona non grata on the left a year ago when he insisted that Trump and others have had their civil rights violated time and time again here.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 4/4/18 at 12:47 pm to
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When will the media accept that Trump is not a criminal target?


When they get their heads out of their asses and start thinking logically, I know it's difficult for these people to comprehend but as someone said the truth will set you free
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 4/4/18 at 12:49 pm to
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When will the media accept that Trump is not a criminal target?


They won't , when the inevitable happens and Trump isn't touched by this investigation, they will switch gears and Mueller will be in on it.

Book it now.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73284 posts
Posted on 4/4/18 at 12:50 pm to
"Yeah but that still doesnt mean trump muh russians" - Want brigade
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39402 posts
Posted on 4/4/18 at 12:52 pm to
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When will the media accept that Trump is not a criminal target?


They have. Its called Stormy Daniels coverage.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73284 posts
Posted on 4/4/18 at 1:02 pm to
Here you are again melting down over Trump
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139798 posts
Posted on 4/4/18 at 1:03 pm to
Fair melt. Not good though. Just fair.
Posted by DawgRff
Snellville Ga
Member since Jul 2012
6309 posts
Posted on 4/4/18 at 1:04 pm to
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You still don't get it do you. NOBODY gives a frick about going to all of the trouble to try to impeach that mobster motherfricker. No, but it is a load of fun to throw barbs at the comb-over king and then laugh while letting the worshipping maggots squirm while trying to contort themselves into odd beliefs in order to defend him.

Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69251 posts
Posted on 4/4/18 at 1:07 pm to
Thanks for admitting it is not justice you are after, but cheap political points.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57145 posts
Posted on 4/4/18 at 1:08 pm to
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When will the media accept that Trump is not a criminal target?


When they get their heads out of their asses and start thinking logically...


Simply saying "never" would suffice.
This post was edited on 4/4/18 at 1:08 pm
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 4/4/18 at 1:11 pm to
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NOBODY gives a frick about going to all of the trouble to try to impeach that mobster motherfricker.



This is, obviously, a lie. But you're a liberal so we never expect better from you.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 4/4/18 at 1:11 pm to
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When they get their heads out of their asses and start thinking logical

So never?
When hell freezes over?
When Jesus returns?
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64208 posts
Posted on 4/4/18 at 1:12 pm to
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NOBODY gives a frick about going to all of the trouble to try to impeach that mobster motherfricker.






Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64208 posts
Posted on 4/4/18 at 1:18 pm to
In the White house is working just fine thanks.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39402 posts
Posted on 4/4/18 at 1:19 pm to
Put him in jail for what?
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 4/4/18 at 1:21 pm to
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frick, put him and hillary both in jail if you want to make america great again.


I can, and have, listed numerous US Code violations by Hillary Clinton in my time posting here, I have yet to see ANY specific US Code that Trump is accused of violating, let alone any proof that he did so.

Perhaps, unlikely, you will be the first to do so.
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