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Jon Stewart gets schooled on guns!
Posted on 3/5/23 at 6:08 pm
Posted on 3/5/23 at 6:08 pm
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Posted on 3/5/23 at 6:19 pm to Craig86
you could stop 90% of gun deaths by racial profiling.
Posted on 3/5/23 at 6:25 pm to Craig86
He didn’t let him talk much after every question he asked. He just talked over him to hear himself more.
Posted on 3/5/23 at 6:26 pm to Craig86
I knew your title was tongue in cheek, but it is tough to take stewart seriously when right off the bat he repeats the idiotic "well regulated" bs.
Immediately disqualifying.
Immediately disqualifying.
Posted on 3/5/23 at 6:32 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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it is tough to take stewart seriously when right off the bat he repeats the idiotic "well regulated" bs.
Or when he says he’s not against the 2nd Amendment. Clearly, that’s a lie.
Posted on 3/5/23 at 6:38 pm to Craig86
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Jon Stewart gets schooled on guns!
I'm shocked that the people commenting on Reddit think Stewart ran circles around Dahm.
Of course, this is what the media is pushing as well.
Jon Stewart Schools GOP Lawmaker on ‘Backwards’ Gun Laws
Jon Stewart Eviscerates Republican State Senator Who's Against Gun Control
Honestly, Dahm was pretty unimpressive here. He made several arguments that left him open and didn't hammer Stewart when he had the chance. I'd love to sit down with Stewart and work his ignorant arse over a bit on gun rights.
This post was edited on 3/5/23 at 6:39 pm
Posted on 3/5/23 at 6:43 pm to Craig86
South Dakota might think so. #5 in gun ownership, #47 in gun violence. Maryland as well. 44th in gun ownership, 3rd in gun violence. The most violent cities have strict gun laws. Plenty of places with loose laws and high ownership and low violence. It's hard to find any consistent correlation. One thing that is certainly correlated with gun violence is race. These are the kind of arguments made if it wasn't a phony production against a soup can meant to influence you. I got this from sorting the 2019 table on this wiki page
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States_by_state
Do guns make us unsafe?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States_by_state
Do guns make us unsafe?
This post was edited on 3/5/23 at 6:47 pm
Posted on 3/5/23 at 6:44 pm to Craig86
I must’ve watched a different video than you. I did not see anyone “school“ anyone else.
I saw two reasonably well-informed people with different viewpoints and different interpretations of the Second Amendment … simply spitting talking points at one another.
I saw two reasonably well-informed people with different viewpoints and different interpretations of the Second Amendment … simply spitting talking points at one another.
Posted on 3/5/23 at 6:49 pm to AggieHank86
Jon Stewart thought "well-regulated" was a point. That's a double fail in that it doesn't apply to the right of the people clause, and the word regulated meant stocked or equipped, the definition of government regulation as we mean it didn't exist. He's not very well informed at all.
This post was edited on 3/5/23 at 6:50 pm
Posted on 3/5/23 at 6:55 pm to Gaggle
quote:Excellent. You have properly recited the talking points on the other side of that issue. kudos.
Jon Stewart thought "well-regulated" was a point. That's a double fail in that it doesn't apply to the right of the people clause, and the word regulated meant stocked or equipped, the definition of government regulation as we mean it didn't exist.
DB is active in this thread, and he will confirm that we have discussed the second amendment in depth, and that I am someone who interprets it very broadly. I happen to agree with you on the “well regulated“ issue.
On the other hand, he did make a good point, and his “opponent“ fell completely on his face. If we interpret the second amendment properly (I think you and I are probably fairly close to one another on that) we have to admit that there will indeed be greater risk of armed confrontations. A mature proponent of the Second Amendment will admit that as being true and acknowledge that “ nothing is free.“ The whole disingenuous argument about more guns meaning that there will be less violence … is just stupid
This post was edited on 3/5/23 at 7:00 pm
Posted on 3/5/23 at 7:05 pm to AggieHank86
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The whole disingenuous argument about more guns meaning that there will be less violence … is just stupid
More gun education
You have politicians that are afraid to pick up a bullet or lie about holding a “10# AR-15” filing gun bills. The populous believe it.
Rifle squad in HS, have a hunter’s safety elective in Hs in the same breath as learning to balance a checkbook or secure a home.
More guns won’t solve the issue, but educating the ignorant, or at least those willing to learn, will
Posted on 3/5/23 at 7:05 pm to AggieHank86
down vote
pathetic comment
disappointed
pathetic comment
disappointed
Posted on 3/5/23 at 7:05 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:I agree. Not impressive at all.
Honestly, Dahm was pretty unimpressive here. He made several arguments that left him open and didn't hammer Stewart when he had the chance.
Of course, this is just the clip that we get to see. Who knows what was discussed otherwise.
Posted on 3/5/23 at 7:06 pm to AggieHank86
quote:incorrect. I haven't seen that talking point. That's just a fact and I'm showing where he is uncategorically wrong and is foolish to bring that up.
You have properly recited the talking points on the other side of that issue. kudos.
quote:About well regulated? No he didn't. I quit after that. Remember the fake "debate" with O'Reilly where Liebowitz said Clinton paid off the national debt, because he had a balanced budget one year? He didn't know the difference between a yearly budget deficit and the trillion dollar century long national debt. Or he does and he intentionally wants his audience to conflate the two. The guy is a hack
On the other hand, he did make a good point, and his “opponent“ fell completely on his face
This post was edited on 3/5/23 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 3/5/23 at 7:12 pm to AggieHank86
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I agree. Not impressive at all.
Of course, this is just the clip that we get to see. Who knows what was discussed otherwise.
I'd hope he did a hell of a lot better in what we didn't see. Stewart offered up some softballs, and Dahm completely missed on most of them. I don't think Stewart made a single point that couldn't have been effectively refuted, and he came away looking like he smoked his opponent.
Posted on 3/5/23 at 7:13 pm to AggieHank86
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The whole disingenuous argument about more guns meaning that there will be less violence … is just stupid
Not really…
LINK
This post was edited on 3/5/23 at 7:25 pm
Posted on 3/5/23 at 7:14 pm to AggieHank86
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DB is active in this thread, and he will confirm that we have discussed the second amendment in depth, and that I am someone who interprets it very broadly.
Can confirm.
We don't 100% agree on it, but I can respect views that extend past bumper sticker slogans.
Posted on 3/5/23 at 7:15 pm to AggieHank86
Comment was tongue n cheek like someone above noticed.
Posted on 3/5/23 at 7:15 pm to AggieHank86
Jon Stewart seems to think that every gun/bullet used in a crime has been legally obtained. There in lies the main issue with this whole argument…by definition, criminals do not care about any laws on the books. Only a moron honestly believes that more laws will stop criminals.
To go one step farther, there is no way that a full registration and/or “stamped” ammunition does NOT lead to a collection attempt.
To go one step farther, there is no way that a full registration and/or “stamped” ammunition does NOT lead to a collection attempt.
Posted on 3/5/23 at 7:15 pm to Craig86
The politician missed a huge point on clarifying between gun related deaths, suicide v murder, and gun related deaths where guns were illegally obtained.
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