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re: John McCain dies at 81

Posted on 8/26/18 at 7:44 am to
Posted by GeeOH
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Posted on 8/26/18 at 7:44 am to
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He served our country and deserves respect


I respect his military service....it ends there
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 8/26/18 at 7:59 am to
Posted by kengel2
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Posted on 8/26/18 at 8:00 am to
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Old debunked rumor


Not what I was talking about.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 8/26/18 at 9:55 am to
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I'll call you a coward because you are terrified of black people for starters.



what evidence do you have of that? Oh that's right, none.
Posted by BigAppleBucky
New York
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 8/26/18 at 10:26 am to
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Not what I was talking about.
He signed a "confession" under torture. Was that it?
This post was edited on 8/26/18 at 10:27 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 8/26/18 at 10:45 am to
Will be interesting to watch the Lefts reaction when Trump passes.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 8/26/18 at 10:57 am to
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Will be interesting to watch the Lefts reaction when Trump passes.


it really depends on how much time there is between him leaving the public arena and death

they actually weren't too tough on Regan even though they hated him while in office as much as they hate Trump
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 8/26/18 at 12:19 pm to
I respect McCain's military service, he was very heroic in his actions as a POW.

That doesn't excuse his behavior , nor does it immunize him from criticism.

Posted by OU812
Michigan
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 8/26/18 at 12:40 pm to
This article was written by JJ Paul McCartney who says:
For anyone who doesn't know the real John McCain let me help you get to know him. And remember this doesn't even mention his traitorous acts while he was a POW. Okay, people...before John McCain dies and the ridiculous "tributes" to the man make me vomit, let's remember what McCain's real legacy is: His father was the Admiral in charge of the Pacific fleet prosecuting the war in Vietnam.
Because of this McCain got preferential treatment in the Navy. He was allowed to become a Navy pilot. But he was a terrible pilot.
McCain crashed two Navy Jets in his early career. Then while aboard the Aircraft Carrier USS Forrestal, McCain got angry because he had to wait in line to take off on a bombing run.
He shut off his engines, opened the cockpit, and in his haste to exit the aircraft to chew someone out about his having to “wait", he hit the button that released his live bombs onto the deck of the Forrestal.
He took off running, as the bombs exploded, which set off a chain reaction of bombs from adjacent aircraft, and the ensuing explosions and fires killed 133 sailors aboard the Forrestal.
While his fellow sailors were fighting the fire, McCain went to the pilot's lounge below decks and watched the men fight the fire on closed circuit TV.
Hours later, McCain took off with a New York Times reporter buddy of his, and went on to say that after seeing the effects of those bombs on the Forrestal, he was beginning to question the morality of dropping those bombs on the Viet Cong.
McCain was the direct cause of 133 deaths on his own ship, and was never reprimanded. He was nowhere to be found as the Forrestal had to limp to the Philippines for months of repair work.
McCain was married then. His wife was stricken with debilitating injuries in an automobile accident. And was hospitalized for more than 5 months. McCain was off gallivanting with anything in a skirt.
Upon returning from Vietnam, McCain found his wife was disfigured by her injuries, which included a shattered pelvis, arm, and legs. In order to save her legs, doctors performed 23 surgeries on her, and had to remove significant portions of the bones in her legs, which left he shorter, and unable to walk, and in a wheelchair, she had to use a catheter.
McCain was disinterested in his first wife's predicament. She had to go through grueling physical therapy to learn to walk again.
After McCain left the Navy, he was intent on a career in politics. He and His wife Carol had gotten to know Ronald and Nancy Reagan, and McCain was eager to jump into politics.
But he decided he needed a more visually pleasing young woman by his side. He callously divorced Carol, the mother of his three children, and immediately jumped into the sack with new wife Cindy, who was 18 years younger.
Upon learning of this, the Reagans were shocked and angered by how he had treated Carol.
While campaigning for congress, McCain used pictures of himself posing with Mr. And Mrs. Reagan, but there was no hearty endorsement offered by the Reagans.
McCain's new young wife was also an heiress to an Arizona Brewing fortune.
And let us not forget McCain was one of the Keating 5, who had helped swindle life savings from countless Americans in the Savings and Loan scandal of the 1980's. McCain was in it up to his eyeballs.
Yet McCain was well-connected in Washington, and parlayed his connections into a seat in the United States Senate.
So before the tearful tributes to John McCain, be sure you remember the facts about this self-proclaimed Maverick. The facts do not agree with that portrait of a heroic patriot and great American.
With due respect to his family, John McCain was never the great man so many portray!
Posted by kengel2
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Posted on 8/26/18 at 1:01 pm to
No
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 8/26/18 at 1:16 pm to
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Now AZ can really get someone in his seat that will do the job..



frick your stupid cunthole.
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/26/18 at 1:22 pm to
One less war hawk...
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 1:22 pm to
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betrayed everything he "worked for" his entire life by going out of his way to spite his party because of who is the leader.


Like when Trump switch from Democrat to Republican?
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 1:25 pm to
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Like when Trump switch from Democrat to Republican?

You're truly stupid, the two literally have nothing to do with each other.

Perfectly acceptable to say "this party no longer stands for what I stand for"

Perfectly unacceptable to vote against a bill that is word for word the same damn bill you supported just the year before.


Next time the "worst poster on TD" thread shows up, if you don't get the lion share of the votes, we will know its a rigged contest.
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 8/26/18 at 1:45 pm to
Despised the man in life and I definitely won’t say anything good about him in death. Today we are simply another day closer to college football starting.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 1:57 pm to
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Not a fan of the man. I still feel badly for his family though.


this^^^^^^^^^^^^^

he was not a hero but lied about and altered the facts about his service to represent himself as one. it was allowed only because he went through terrible abuse as a POW but he was never a hero and it was criminal to represent himself as one
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 8/26/18 at 1:59 pm to
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You're truly stupid, the two literally have nothing to do with each other.

Perfectly acceptable to say "this party no longer stands for what I stand for"

Perfectly unacceptable to vote against a bill that is word for word the same damn bill you supported just the year before.


Next time the "worst poster on TD" thread shows up, if you don't get the lion share of the votes, we will know its a rigged contest.


He did it because of Obama. It's exactly like what I was responding to. I'm sorry you're having a hard time with that
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 3:12 pm to
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He did it because of Obama. It's exactly like what I was responding to. I'm sorry you're having a hard time with that


Trump switched from Democrat to Republican because of Obama?

First , link?
Second. sounds like a lot of state houses and Congressional seats to me.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 3:27 pm to
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In August 2001, the billionaire enrolled as a Democrat. Eight years later, he returned to the Republican Party, The Smoking Gun reported.

After only two years as a registered Republican, Mr. Trump left the party again, and in December 2011 marked a box that indicated, “I do not wish to enroll in a party.”

Mr. Trump returned to the GOP in April 2012, The Smoking Gun reported.


Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 3:32 pm to
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Well, if you want to blame Obama for that, who am I to stop you?
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