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re: John Durham's Legacy
Posted on 7/24/25 at 1:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 7/24/25 at 1:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
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They craft the assessments based on their subjective analysis and opinions.
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Every briefing, memo, etc. has to exclude some evidence based on the subjective whims of the author. Otherwise it would include infinite data/evidence. This editorial power is within the subjective opinions that form the intelligence analysis, strategy, etc.
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Every report ever made includes "deliberate distortion" or else it would include all data ever in existence on earth. That dog won't hunt
You remind me of when Comey said ‘no reasonable prosecutor’ would touch Clinton’s emails, same game here, spinning obvious misconduct into harmless opinion to protect favored players.
There’s a world of difference between analytical filtering and knowingly falsifying or omitting key evidence that contradicts your narrative. Every report has to prioritize, sure. But intelligence isn’t a choose-your-own-adventure novel.
What we’re talking about isn’t routine editorial discretion. It’s willful suppression of exculpatory intel and alteration of documents submitted to a FISA court. That’s not “subjective whim”… that’s perjury.
You’re trying to blur the line between judgment and deception. But once you lie to get a wiretap, or bury evidence that undermines your case, you’re not “refining an assessment”, you’re framing someone. Which is ironic since you claimed everyone else of framing lol.
That dog doesn’t just not hunt, it chewed through its leash and ran into a legal minefield
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Posted on 7/24/25 at 1:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
these reports and investigations are all interlinked, almost like they are mesh pieces that fit over one another
start with the Dutch intelligence report on Russian activity on the US election in 2016. brennan, clapper, comey had verified evidence from the Dutchb
then overlay the Horowitz report, the Durham report, the Senate intelligence report, the Mueller report, the recent releases by gabbard etc over each other and it links together
Steele Dossier saying DJT is compromised by Russia failed to stop DJT from getting elected
Russians hacked and interfered with the election was kicked off to put flat tires on the Trump Admin
that didnt do enough damage so they stepped up the “DJT is colluding with Russia” narrative to try to impeach him
gabbard is releasing the internals that durham wasnt allowed to see
start with the Dutch intelligence report on Russian activity on the US election in 2016. brennan, clapper, comey had verified evidence from the Dutchb
then overlay the Horowitz report, the Durham report, the Senate intelligence report, the Mueller report, the recent releases by gabbard etc over each other and it links together
Steele Dossier saying DJT is compromised by Russia failed to stop DJT from getting elected
Russians hacked and interfered with the election was kicked off to put flat tires on the Trump Admin
that didnt do enough damage so they stepped up the “DJT is colluding with Russia” narrative to try to impeach him
gabbard is releasing the internals that durham wasnt allowed to see
This post was edited on 7/24/25 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 7/24/25 at 1:34 pm to supatigah
Posted on 7/24/25 at 1:40 pm to bstew3006
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What we’re talking about isn’t routine editorial discretion. It’s willful suppression of exculpatory intel and alteration of documents submitted to a FISA court.
Clinesmith was already prosecuted for that.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 1:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
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You're framing it, due to partisan reasons,
Or looking at it honestly.
You are framing it as partisanship because it inflates your above the fray persona that only exists in your head.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 1:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
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That's the over-arching point. Intelligence is based in subjectivity and opinion.
And yet you keep claiming that this intelligence based in subjectivity and opinion is able to establish objective facts.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 1:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Clinesmith was already prosecuted for that.
The real story is that the entire machine starting with Obama’s intel leadership was running on suppression, omission, and political targeting. Brennan, Clapper, Comey they all laid the groundwork. The lies weren’t accidental, they were strategy. Clinesmith was a foot soldier in a much bigger operation that began at the top. Burying exculpatory evidence wasn’t a glitch. It was the mission.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 1:51 pm to Turbeauxdog
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Or looking at it honestly.
Within the confines of partisan brain rot? Sure. "Honestly"
Posted on 7/24/25 at 1:52 pm to Flats
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And yet you keep claiming that this intelligence based in subjectivity and opinion is able to establish objective facts.
I never claimed it was "able to establish objective facts". That's the flaw in your argument.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 1:53 pm to bstew3006
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The real story is that the entire machine starting with Obama’s intel leadership was running on suppression, omission, and political targeting. Brennan, Clapper, Comey they all laid the groundwork. The lies weren’t accidental, they were strategy. Clinesmith was a foot soldier in a much bigger operation that began at the top. Burying exculpatory evidence wasn’t a glitch. It was the mission.
I'll accept your MAGA red meat as gospel, and still state, convictions will be unlikely if not impossible. That's the point I keep making.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 1:58 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The problem is Durham understood what the first paragraph here meant:
Yet actual evidence released disproves all of it.
The only real thing we know about Durham today is that the Deep State was still controlling what he could and could not say.
That problem doesn't exist with Tulsi.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 1:59 pm to riccoar
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Yet actual evidence released disproves all of it.
That's from the summary of that "actual evidence" you're citing.
You may want to try again.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 1:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
I guess democrats should have had better computer security. This is no fault of DJT.
DJT didn't help himself when he made that flippant comment about Russia finding Hillary's 30,000 emails. I consider it an ooofh.
DJT didn't help himself when he made that flippant comment about Russia finding Hillary's 30,000 emails. I consider it an ooofh.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 2:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
obviously these people are all lawyers and know how to hide in the margins
that is why none of them will hang or any of that non-sense
but the exposure and the people becoming aware of how we were lied to and manipulated is probably more important than getting “justice” for this
that is why none of them will hang or any of that non-sense
but the exposure and the people becoming aware of how we were lied to and manipulated is probably more important than getting “justice” for this
Posted on 7/24/25 at 2:00 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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I consider it an ooofh.
Par the course.
Trump always would have been a much more effective leader/President if he didn't constantly step on his dick. And not, it's not 8D Backgammon when he does.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 2:00 pm to supatigah
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gabbard is releasing the internals that durham wasnt allowed to see
Or that he wasn't allowed to use.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 2:01 pm to supatigah
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but the exposure and the people becoming aware of how we were lied to and manipulated is probably more important than getting “justice” for this
People are already dug in on both sides. This won’t change one opinion on either side.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 2:01 pm to bstew3006
quote:note that this was all completely ignored
A “differing interpretation” doesn’t excuse altering intel, lying to a FISA court, or concealing findings that contradicted the chosen narrative or their framing…That’s not opinion, that’s misconduct
Posted on 7/24/25 at 2:02 pm to supatigah
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but the exposure and the people becoming aware of how we were lied to and manipulated is probably more important than getting “justice” for this
I understand the theory, but the only people who care about this are the ones who already cared about this. Pretty much everyone else seems to not give a shite.
Even my DEM-Leftist groups I follow are giving a big yawn to this. It's not even people engaged in politics. It's specifically MAGA-types engaged in MAGA politics.
Epstein had much more impact/coverage.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 2:02 pm to lsuguy84
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People are already dug in on both sides. This won’t change one opinion on either side.
Correct.
But one side that's dug in doesn't even give a shite about this
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