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re: John Bolton indicted

Posted on 10/17/25 at 8:27 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/17/25 at 8:27 am to
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Been a lot of legal goings on lately is why I was curious.

I've posted on a few of them, like the shaky indictment of Comey and mocking people like Vox who parrot idiotic talking points about the legal system.

The real scenario that broke the camel's back is the end of fiscal year 2026. When Trump didn't stand behind an actual budget, the rest of the stuff became unimportant. And the sheep are just focusing on the shutdown and promoting the revenge-based stuff they're told to, so they don't have to think too hard about the real issues (which, funny enough, were a big deal as late as LAST YEAR with Gaetz-gate).

It's hard to find threads talking about substance, especially policy-based discussions. The board is dominated by weird religious threads and revenge-based LARPing and fantasizing.

The Idiocracy appears to have won.
This post was edited on 10/17/25 at 8:27 am
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 10/17/25 at 8:54 am to
More analysis of the Bolton indictments:

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The Bolton indictment is so damning, it defies words.

It details brazen corruption, abject stupidity, and most importantly, conduct of people who sincerely believe they are above the law.

I presume individual 1 and individual 2, who were the recipients of the diary-like entries detailing all of the classified information Bolton was receiving, are his wife and daughter. I initially thought actual book editors, but the indictment refers to them as “related”.

Sharing classified information…

Sending it through unauthorized emails…

Not reporting having sent classified information from email that was hacked…

Comedic level stupidity.

Avarice greed.

Brazen corruption.

And a sense of legal and political invincibility to boot.

Holy crapapples.

Jail.
This post was edited on 10/17/25 at 8:55 am
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162947 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 9:23 am to
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The real scenario that broke the camel's back is the end of fiscal year 2026. When Trump didn't stand behind an actual budget
Don't lie. @Grok says you lie like Joe Wilson

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Trump's Budget Proposals in His Second Term: A Pattern of Bipartisan PushbackIn his first term (2017–2021)

President Trump's annual budget requests—particularly the FY2018 through FY2021 proposals—faced widespread ridicule and rejection from both parties. Republicans in Congress, including Senate leaders like Mitch McConnell and appropriators like Susan Collins, dismissed them as unrealistic "wish lists" due to proposed cuts to domestic programs (e.g., education, housing, and environmental protection) that clashed with their priorities, while Democrats condemned them as cruel attacks on vulnerable populations.

Congress routinely ignored these blueprints, passing bipartisan spending bills that increased overall funding.

Fast-forward to Trump's second term (inaugurated January 20, 2025): The pattern has largely repeated, with his FY2026 budget proposal (released in "skinny" form on May 2, 2025, and detailed on May 30) drawing sharp criticism from Republicans and Democrats.

This $1.7 trillion discretionary blueprint calls for $163 billion in non-defense cuts (a 22% reduction), flat military funding at $893 billion, and the elimination of programs like Job Corps, TRIO (college access for low-income students), and LIHEAP (heating aid for the poor).

It also boosts defense by 13% in some accounts but keeps base funding stagnant, frustrating hawks. While some GOP leaders like House Speaker Mike Johnson have endorsed the broad direction, key Republicans have balked, echoing first-term dynamics.

Democrats, meanwhile, have decried it as a "wrecking ball" to social services.This backlash has fueled ongoing fiscal chaos, including multiple near-shutdowns and an actual partial shutdown starting October 1, 2025 (now in its third week as of October 17), over funding extensions tied to Trump's spending priorities.

Republicans passed nine "clean" continuing resolutions to maintain Biden-era levels, but Democrats blocked them in the Senate, demanding $1+ trillion in health subsidies (e.g., ACA premium credits expiring end-2025) and reversals of Trump's "pocket rescissions" (unilateral cuts to prior appropriations). Trump has responded by threatening mass layoffs (targeting "Democrat programs") and halting $28 billion in grants, mostly in blue districts.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 10/17/25 at 9:31 am to
Revenge. Justice. Payback. Injustice.
Words for different viewpoints.

The NY AG committed a horrible witch hunt with no victims. No? And may have committed fraud. No?

The Russian fake crime to spy on a campaign was all legal to you and justified ?

Is keeping secret government documents that you are not allowed not a crime to be investigated?

I remember you commenting on almost every case brought against Trump and pointing out there legalities and possible problems due to them for Trump. You seem to dismiss the charges that go the other way. As to Comey you mentioned his shakey case. If that’s all you can find on a total pos then good. Yes. Shake the trees and see what falls for a person I believe lied and abused his position as top of the fbi. Maybe it will give bad actors in power pause and that is worth it. They have a very tight and protective wall around DC and it’s players Slo.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162947 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 9:40 am to
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a sense of legal and political invincibility too boot.
^ This times 1000. I used to think they thought they were ridding the world of a bad man that should have never ever gotten into the palace.

They really do think they know better, are smarter, and MAGA deplorables need directed as they rule over us and pick their own Presidents as THEY have for 50 years.

Democrats 8 years

Republicans 8 years

Repeat and rinse until the final nail in the coffin is needed to destroy America from within with their feigned self-brilliance.

And then they put the black jesus in to finish it off with marxism nudging islam and race-baiting.

As the CCP and Russia laugh their asses off as the CCP infiltrated all the way to Hunter Biden's nose and bank accounts.... AND our colleges for 20 plus years with the Confucious Centers of the CCP.

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This map is fully interactive and allows the user to zoom in on a Confucius Institute location and access the host institution's website. It marks with a yellow "pin" the 78 Confucius Institutes across the U.S. including Alaska and Canada.



LINK



Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162947 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 9:49 am to
He dissed Judge Aileen Cannon and promoted the ideals of Jack Smith and Andrew Weissmann as factual. He seemed to copy their diatribes from their lawfare blog, while defying what was done to DJT was lawfare, by feigning the lack of the definition of lawfare.

I don't even think he touched upon the documented corruption and prosecutorial misconduct of Smith or Weismann. I think he would drop everything and work for Norm Eisen.
This post was edited on 10/17/25 at 9:50 am
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2966 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 9:56 am to
It may feel good that this tool may be indicted but don't look for any convictions other than, "GUILTY!!!"( of chewing gum while jaywalking and quietly, minor fines.)

These supposedly "indictments" of high-profile criminal subversives are nothing but synthetic "justice" run through crash dummie-courts, prosecuted by mannequin-attorneys. ZERO of them will ever be perp-walked. So, yes, it's all theater.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162947 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 9:58 am to
Is that you, Norm Eisen?
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35161 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 10:01 am to
Don’t forget the thing that the left talked about that was one of their stated objectives to damage Trump: the heavy expense/cost/financial burden of defending oneself in such a high profile situation. And I think we can agree that Bolton doesn’t quite have the resources that Trump had/has. Play stupid games……
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467299 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 10:02 am to
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Don't lie. @Grok says you lie like Joe Wilson


That was from May 2, 2025. LINK

That's the fantasy budget all President's submit that isn't what they really expect. That begins the negotiations.

There has been no progress on it basically since.

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Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74466 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 10:05 am to
Well people who dismissed “lawfare” are scrambling for a new word these days. I see Whiskers gave “Stalinesque” a test run
Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
75423 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 10:10 am to
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If that’s all you can find on a total pos then good.

This is where the contrarian shitbirds lose the plot.

The lying to Congress charges against Comey aren't the end of the story.

The mortgage fraud charges against Big Tish in NYC aren't the end of the story.

The classified docs leaking and even the violations of the Espionage Act charges against Bolton aren't the end of the story.

Just like the mortgage fraud charges that will invariably follow for Bug Eyed Pervert Adam Schiff aren't the end of the story.

The purpose of these ticky-tack initial indictments aren't the be-all, end-all legal nukes. They're establishing patterns of criminality for the first wave of our Dramatis Personae.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467299 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 10:10 am to
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The Russian fake crime to spy on a campaign was all legal to you and justified ?

Justified, as in sincere? No.

Legal? Probably. That's the nature of the Unified, Absolutely Immune, Executive.

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The NY AG committed a horrible witch hunt with no victims. No?

That's mostly a case of a vague, bad law that gives the government too much power to take action against corporations.

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And may have committed fraud. No?

Probably. Completely unrelated to any of the above.

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Is keeping secret government documents that you are not allowed not a crime to be investigated?

Yes. Which is why both Trump and Bolton should have been prosecuted for the same act.

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I remember you commenting on almost every case brought against Trump and pointing out there legalities and possible problems due to them for Trump.

There was a power ranking from super weak case to much stronger cases.

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You seem to dismiss the charges that go the other way.

This is not reflective of reality.

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As to Comey you mentioned his shakey case.

It's been reported as such.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467299 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 10:11 am to
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He dissed Judge Aileen Cannon

Yes, for a unprecedented ruling, and the Trump admin has basically ignored her ruling, which should tell you something.

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and promoted the ideals of Jack Smith

A lie

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I don't even think he touched upon the documented corruption and prosecutorial misconduct of Smith or Weismann.

In the Trump prosecutions? What, specifically are you referencing?

If you're referencing irrelevant whataboutism, then yes, I gave it proportionate response time to the respect it deserves (none).

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467299 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 10:13 am to
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This is where the contrarian shitbirds lose the plot.

The lying to Congress charges against Comey aren't the end of the story.



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The purpose of these ticky-tack initial indictments aren't the be-all, end-all legal nukes. They're establishing patterns of criminality for the first wave of our Dramatis Personae.

Holy fricking shite

I can't wait for this to turn into yet another nothingburger where your implications and innuendos are proven 100% wrong, yet again, but then you hide behind your inability to actually make a cogent, tactile case to pretend you had it right all along.

Show me your specific posts about John Bolton being specifically prosecuted for specifically mishandling/distributing secret documents/ information prior to Trump's election.

Let's see how right you are.
This post was edited on 10/17/25 at 10:15 am
Posted by goatmilker
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 10/17/25 at 10:21 am to
Agree to disagree but appreciate the response.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162947 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 10:29 am to
weak sauce...

there are rumors that thee ADAM SCHIFF FOR BRAINS IS ON DECK

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aren't you excited to see if he gets perp walked with leg chains like Navarro was?

What is the precedent on indicting a sitting congress critter? Full FBI raid of home needed first, or no?

Dear Internet Porn Penthouse: What if the long legged mack daddy AND John Brennan got picked up for questioning?

Just for you and Bunky: OCTOBER 17, @11:11.

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Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467299 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 10:35 am to
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aren't you excited to see if he gets perp walked with leg chains like Navarro was?


This is the vengeance stuff I referenced earlier.

I don't partake in all of that emotional stuff.

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What is the precedent on indicting a sitting congress critter?

Multiple members of both houses have been indicted while in office.

Bob Menendez was. George Santos was, right?

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What if the long legged mack daddy AND John Brennan got picked up for questioning?

I doubt either would answer questions.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
3403 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 10:47 am to
It will be epic when the heat is turned up on Schiff. That piece of shite can't help but run his mouth. He is the poster child for malignant narcissism. I expect he will bury himself.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
43005 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 10:48 am to
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This is the vengeance stuff I referenced earlier.


So in your world, breaking the law, abusing power for political purposes THEN getting caught & properly indicted for those actions is ‘vengeance’? Not due process?

Weird.
This post was edited on 10/17/25 at 12:51 pm
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