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Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:12 am
Posted by cahoots
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Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:13 am to
MAGA bitches!
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:15 am to
7 years is a long friggin run

Time to start a longer run now
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:18 am to
I have a feeling that when the state reports are released in October we will see that the vast majority of those 33K jobs lost are directly due to the hurricanes.

Of course the obvious fact is that the hurricanes will probably result in the creation of double that many jobs in the near future to clean up and repair the destruction.

Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16973 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:25 am to
quote:

We lost 33,000 jobs last month, which is the first monthly decline in 7 years.


Obama doing work!
Posted by Statestreet
Gueydan
Member since Sep 2008
12930 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:26 am to
Congrats on "capitalizing" on devastating hurricanes!!
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:29 am to
quote:

Congrats on "capitalizing" on devastating hurricanes!!


Huh? The report makes it clear that the hurricanes did no favors for the economy last month. How is that capitalizing? That's what happened.
This post was edited on 10/6/17 at 9:30 am
Posted by Statestreet
Gueydan
Member since Sep 2008
12930 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:46 am to
You are gloating in the job decline numbers.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54209 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:51 am to
Why didn't you highlight the fact that unemployment dropped from 4.4 to 4.2% even with the downward spiral you posted?

That's seems more positive than negative doesn't it?
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:55 am to
quote:

You are gloating in the job decline numbers.


Tell me how to rewrite the OP then and I'll edit
This post was edited on 10/6/17 at 9:57 am
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54209 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:57 am to
quote:

Tell me how to rewrite the OP then and I'll edit


The post above yours would be a good start.
Posted by VaBamaMan
North AL
Member since Apr 2013
7653 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:58 am to
quote:

Why didn't you highlight the fact that unemployment dropped from 4.4 to 4.2% even with the downward spiral you posted?

That's seems more positive than negative doesn't it?


If unemployment went down, and jobs did as well, then that simply means that the.2% who dropped off unemployment did so without finding a job. Their unemployment payments simply ran out.
This post was edited on 10/6/17 at 9:59 am
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:58 am to
quote:

Why didn't you highlight the fact that unemployment dropped from 4.4 to 4.2% even with the downward spiral you posted?

That's seems more positive than negative doesn't it?


Because how can the unemployment rate actually decline in the face of a net job loss? It's an aberration.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54209 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:07 am to
quote:

Because how can the unemployment rate actually decline in the face of a net job loss? It's an aberration.



The aberrations, as you call it, started back in 2009 with interpreting unemployment rates that had never been interpreted like that before.

Posted by Jyrdis
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Member since Aug 2015
12796 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:08 am to
quote:

We lost 33,000 jobs last month


Interesting. We lost 33,000 nonfarm payroll jobs last month, but had an increase of 906,000 employed from August to September and had a decrease of 331,000 unemployed. All other "bad" statistics were pretty much down across the board. Average hourly and weekly earnings were up compared to August.

We are pretty much in a tight labor market. Job seekers pretty much equals job openings. Until structural changes occur in the economy don't expect to get much better numbers on a monthly basis.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:09 am to
Irma & Maria......fricking wimmenz
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:12 am to
quote:

The aberrations, as you call it, started back in 2009 with interpreting unemployment rates that had never been interpreted like that before.



Still, they're being interpreted the same way for August and September, so you can't truly have a net decline in jobs and a decrease in real unemployment. Makes no sense
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:14 am to
quote:

Because how can the unemployment rate actually decline in the face of a net job loss? It's an aberration.


No it certainly isn't . It's exactly how the Obama Administration played with the numbers the entire time they were in power.

Theoretically we could have 100M Americans not working and have 0% unemployement, if those 100M weren't looking for jobs. Which is exactly what we saw under Obama, Disability claims shot through the roof so those people were no longer reporting as unemployed. So it didn't matter if 100K jobs disappeared in a given time period, if no one was looking for jobs, the unemployment rate remained low, while the job loss rate stayed high.

My guess is that without the bogus disability claims we all know happened from 2008-2015 the UE rate would have been double what it was.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:34 am to
Forget about the methodologies for a sec. You can't lose jobs and have fewer unemployed at the same time.
This post was edited on 10/6/17 at 10:35 am
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69297 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:36 am to
Cahoots, any idea why the stock market isn't being spooked by this?
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