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re: Job availability: A reason for population density

Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:47 am to
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:47 am to
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There's a major lifestyle change between living in a town and living in a mid size city, unless you're counting these towns as suburbs.


Like what?
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26316 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:47 am to
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Why would someone want to move into a very rural area unless they had a job that paid them better than what they have? Most small towns I've been too have very little to no industry.


What? Why would anyone want to live in a freaking city where you can't drive for more than 100 yards before you are forced to stop because a light hanging in front of you is read?

You never see deer, you are removed from nature. You can't even see stars at night.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296793 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:48 am to
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I dont see how urban life is more expensive than rural life post 1990s.


The larger cities, definitely is more expensive. If you're talking about Spokane or Cincinnati, there's not much of a difference.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:54 am to
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What? Why would anyone want to live in a freaking city


Why don't you ask the large majority of the United States who live in cities?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296793 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:58 am to
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you are removed from nature.


Absolutely. Cities have raped the landscape.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:22 pm to
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Many people on here are under this misguided notion that only rural Red areas have workers.
where the f did you get this idea
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
58504 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:25 pm to
You describe Silicon Valley as having workers but sky screaming about trump isnt working
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 12:25 pm
Posted by Smart Post
Member since Feb 2018
3539 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:26 pm to
Democrat social policies (illegals in public schools) and globalist economic policies (NAFTA) have not quite decimated urban areas, as they have rural. Yet.

Edit: more private school options in urban areas. Of course illegals have inundated many urban public school districts.
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 12:51 pm
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:43 pm to
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You describe Silicon Valley as having workers but sky screaming about trump isnt working




What does Trump have to do with it.

I'm commenting that Silicon Valley is an economically prosperous area in a Blue State. Most rural areas have limited job opportunities, that is a fact. It's not even a political observation.

But to be fair, California has a huge homeless problem. So I guess it depends on what you find worse, a lack of jobs or a large homeless problem.

It doesn't matter to me, since in either case you have many poor people who need government assistance.
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 12:44 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62671 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:47 pm to
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Urbanization is the end result of an industrialized nation.


As the technology advances, urban areas will be more and more filled with poorer workers. Professionals can already perform almost all of their duties remotely from home. Why wouldn't I move somewhere with a lower cost of living while making the same rate of pay?
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 12:48 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296793 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:49 pm to
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. Most rural areas have limited job opportunities, that is a fact. It's not even a political observation.


Idaho is pretty rural and has 2.9 unemployment rate
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,” Idaho’s poverty rate is 9.7 percent, far below the national average of 14.1 percent, and the Gem State tied with Nebraska for the number six spot.


LINK

It seems the rural areas of the Great Plains and West are doing fine. Low cost of living, ample employment, low stress lifestyle...

Vermont and Maine have the highest pctg of residents living in rural areas and they seem to be doing ok.
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 12:51 pm
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116734 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:55 pm to
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Why would someone want to move into a very rural area unless they had a job that paid them better than what they have?


Have you ever heard of 'X-burbs'? That's where I live. It's extremely rural but it's not Little House on the Prairie rural.

In my yard I regularly see raccoons, possums, armadillos, snakes, coyotes, and tons of birds including owls. cranes and hawks. I have septic instead of sewerage pipes and propane instead of gas for heat.

Before I retired I worked in Shreveport. That's not a small town. The drive from my house was about 20 minutes.

You can live rural and still be close to good paying jobs.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 1:06 pm to
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It seems the rural areas of the Great Plains and West are doing fine. Low cost of living, ample employment, low stress lifestyle... 

Vermont and Maine have the highest pctg of residents living in rural areas and they seem to be doing ok.


I see where you and Zach are coming from. I'm not denying some rural areas are better than others.

Most of my observations and criticisms stem from the fact that I'm originally from Central Louisiana. Perhaps other parts of country have a better person to job ratio regarding good employment and lower unemployment numbers.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296793 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 1:24 pm to
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Most of my observations and criticisms stem from the fact that I'm originally from Central Louisiana.


Well, yeah...you normally don't have people moving to Central La for the lifestyle. Its mainly people who grew up there and feel "trapped."

Urban areas have extremes of wealth/poverty. It's certainly not a great lifestyle for everyone.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 3:07 pm to
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As the technology advances, urban areas will be more and more filled with poorer workers. Professionals can already perform almost all of their duties remotely from home. Why wouldn't I move somewhere with a lower cost of living while making the same rate of pay?


Depends on quality of life. Do you mega movie theaters, multiple restaurants, malls, clothing stores, multiple electronics stores.

If you dont, then ok. But if you do (like me) then it matters.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 3:11 pm to
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Urbanization is the end result of an industrialized nation. I'll never understand where this anti-urban resentment came from.


Think really hard about it
Posted by thomass
Member since Jan 2014
3526 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 3:26 pm to
Every mid-major city will be blue. It will be difficult to find a conservatives living in a city because by nature city development requires a communal effort. Trains, buses, sidewalks, clean streets, etc. cost money. City dwellers are willing to pay to build these things.

Someone in an rural environment will most likely think individualistically.

This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 4:02 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296793 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 3:47 pm to
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Do you mega movie theaters, multiple restaurants, malls, clothing stores, multiple electronics stores.


frick no

Ridin' the storm out, waitin' for the thaw out
On a full moon night in the Rocky Mountain winter.
My wine bottle's low, watching for the snow
I've been thinking lately of what I'm missing in the city.
And I'm not missing a thing
Watchin' the full moon crossing the range
Ridin' the storm out
Ridin' the storm out.


My lady's beside me, she's there to guide me.
She says that alone we've finally found home.
The wind outside is frightening,
but it's kinder than the lightning life in the city.
It's a hard life to live but it gives back what you give.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296793 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 3:50 pm to
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Think really hard about it


Ah, progressive groupthink...

Never change progs... you can't see the world beyond simpleton explanation
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