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re: Jesus is Lord is trending on X
Posted on 10/19/24 at 11:51 am to extremetigerfanatic
Posted on 10/19/24 at 11:51 am to extremetigerfanatic
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But you only have that right because people exactly like you DIDNT sit on their hands in years pa
Voting isn't a right
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Posted on 10/19/24 at 11:55 am to FooManChoo
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If it were merely helping others, you would be right.
Please notice that my position isnt that Christians shouldn’t ever vote, be engaged in politics, or act in the best interests of others. My position is that what is most honoring to Christ may not be what is most pragmatically beneficial to others, even other Christians.
If God didn't want us to use our brains, why did he give the gift of discernment?
This post was edited on 10/19/24 at 11:57 am
Posted on 10/19/24 at 11:59 am to Riverside
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Hope Kamala enjoys spending eternity in the fiery pits of hell.
This is an opportunity to pray for her salvation. We are are fallen beings in need of the Savior, Jesus Christ.
As one preacher said, "There but for the grace of God go I."
Posted on 10/19/24 at 12:01 pm to RoDee
I hope she doesn't go to hell. It's a long time and it really sucks. I hope no one goes.
Posted on 10/19/24 at 12:03 pm to John Barron
Surely the black American church has strongly denounced this ! 
Posted on 10/19/24 at 12:10 pm to prouddawg
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Surely the black American church has strongly denounced this !
They worship materialism and self, could be confused for satanism
Posted on 10/19/24 at 12:22 pm to FooManChoo
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My position is that what is most honoring to Christ may not be what is most pragmatically beneficial to others, even other Christians.
I have agreed with much of what you have said. However, you lost me here. Example?
Posted on 10/19/24 at 12:39 pm to FooManChoo
Foo
Bro. You missed my point. Yes go honor God.
But you get to do that peacefully only because men before you in your position didn’t choose to do what you are doing. The irony here is thick.
You don’t get to serve God peacefully because you sit under Christian freedom. You sit in American freedom. It allows you to peacefully be a Christian.
Don’t believe me? Move to the Middle East.
Brah I don’t give a shite if you don’t vote.
But don’t you dare hide behind Christ while you do it. You aren’t brave. You are a hypocrite.
Thank the Lord you weren’t a Hebrew under David. David makes his Trump look like a saint.
Bro. You missed my point. Yes go honor God.
But you get to do that peacefully only because men before you in your position didn’t choose to do what you are doing. The irony here is thick.
You don’t get to serve God peacefully because you sit under Christian freedom. You sit in American freedom. It allows you to peacefully be a Christian.
Don’t believe me? Move to the Middle East.
Brah I don’t give a shite if you don’t vote.
But don’t you dare hide behind Christ while you do it. You aren’t brave. You are a hypocrite.
Thank the Lord you weren’t a Hebrew under David. David makes his Trump look like a saint.
Posted on 10/19/24 at 1:42 pm to FooManChoo
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I'm still not planning on voting Trump for the reasons I've explained ad nauseum in the other two threads, but if he responds to Harris by proclaiming that Jesus Christ is Lord, I'll give it some more thought.
The guy who is fighting for your religious freedom and ISN'T actively campaigning in opposition to Christianity is 100 times better than the other person. Every time.
Posted on 10/19/24 at 1:44 pm to extremetigerfanatic
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You don’t get to serve God peacefully because you sit under Christian freedom. You sit in American freedom. It allows you to peacefully be a Christian.
Nah this ain't true. Christian beliefs are what allow this freedom to exist. "American" freedom would be just as opposed to Christian freedom as middle eastern countries if we started regularly electing Muslims.
Like it or not, religious freedom will only exist as long as we continue to elect people who give deference to Christian beliefs.
This post was edited on 10/19/24 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 10/20/24 at 1:10 am to JiminyCricket
quote:I can't say if it is or isn't. If my position is correct, though, then any Christian voting for a man who does not lead according to his profession of faith in Christ would be in sin for not seeking a godly leader. I grant that I could be wrong on this, but I don't think I am.
Is it sinful for me to vote for trump?
quote:See previous answer.
Answer this, is every christian that votes for trump committing a sin?
quote:The pattern in the Scriptures is that God's people are to select from themselves godly men, not secular men who give lip service to Jesus while blaspheming His name and bringing reproach on Christ for his positions, words, and actions.
No one is voting trump as head of the church dude. He's being hired to run a country and he's shown no tendency to lessen religious freedom. You're overthinking it.
No, the President is not the head of the Church, but all leaders, and especially those who lead countries, should seek first Christ's Kingdom and serve Him above all else.
Posted on 10/20/24 at 1:12 am to Enadious
quote:I'm turning in a ballot and will be voting for some individuals and all local/state propositions.
The Government wants you to vote. Just go vote.
The government wanting me to vote and commanding me to vote are two different things.
quote:I would hope that I would be welcomed into Heaven and rewarded for seeking to honor Christ above all else. Also, I'm not seeking attention here. I recognize that I hold a minority position here and I'm getting a lot of unwanted attention for it. I'm happy to answer questions, though.
On Judgment day, Christ is not going to say, Well done my faithful servant for not voting and being an attention whore on TD.
Posted on 10/20/24 at 1:13 am to JiminyCricket
quote:Of course He wants us to use our brains. I believe I'm doing that by weighing my options and making a decision.
If God didn't want us to use our brains, why did he give the gift of discernment?
Posted on 10/20/24 at 1:18 am to SECdragonmaster
quote:I gave an example where I may one day be persecuted for my faith and, like the early Christians, I may be put to the test where I can either deny Christ and live or remain faithful to Him and die. My family may even be killed as the result, as has happened in history under such persecutions. In such a scenario, it would be pragmatically beneficial to my family and myself to lie and deny Christ, but doing so would be wrong.
I have agreed with much of what you have said. However, you lost me here. Example?
While not on that same level, if I believe that it would be dishonoring to Christ to endorse someone who blasphemes His name with my vote and I do so anyway for the sake of pragmatism, then in a way, I'm doing the same thing that early Christians did when they said "Caesar is Lord" to save their own skins.
Posted on 10/20/24 at 1:29 am to extremetigerfanatic
quote:I'm resigned to the fact that as a Christian, I shouldn't expect to live in peace. I'm supposed to live peaceably with others so long as it depends on me, but I recognize that as this nation moves away from Christian influence, Christians will be persecuted more and more for having a worldview opposed to the secular humanism that is on the rise. Electing Trump isn't going to stop that just like it didn't stop it when he was elected the first time.
Bro. You missed my point. Yes go honor God.
But you get to do that peacefully only because men before you in your position didn’t choose to do what you are doing. The irony here is thick.
You don’t get to serve God peacefully because you sit under Christian freedom. You sit in American freedom. It allows you to peacefully be a Christian.
Don’t believe me? Move to the Middle East.
quote:Explain to me why I'm a hypocrite. I've been very clear about my position throughout this thread and the other one started last week.
Brah I don’t give a shite if you don’t vote.
But don’t you dare hide behind Christ while you do it. You aren’t brave. You are a hypocrite.
And I'm not "hiding behind Christ". I'm explaining my position and why I can't vote for Trump in good conscience. So far, all of the replies and petitions against my position have been entirely pragmatic in nature. I should do it because of what might happen if Harris wins, etc. I'm not voting based on pragmatism and I've said that many times.
quote:As I've said several times, David was repentant. I haven't seen that sort of repentance from Trump. I hope he's changed his tune from 2015 when he said "Why do I have to repent or ask for forgiveness, if I am not making mistakes?"
Thank the Lord you weren’t a Hebrew under David. David makes his Trump look like a saint.
Posted on 10/20/24 at 1:30 am to imjustafatkid
quote:Better than the alternative, yes, but like I've said many times, I'm not voting for the lesser of two evils any longer. I'm not voting based on pragmatism. If you and others want to, then go ahead according to your conscience, but mine won't allow me to do that any longer.
The guy who is fighting for your religious freedom and ISN'T actively campaigning in opposition to Christianity is 100 times better than the other person. Every time.
Posted on 10/20/24 at 1:36 am to FooManChoo
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I'm not voting for the lesser of two evils any longer.
It's not two evils.
It's one evil, and one good. That's it. That's the whole game.
Posted on 10/20/24 at 1:54 am to John Barron
Kamala refused to associate with Catholics, also her husband is Jewish
This post was edited on 10/20/24 at 1:55 am
Posted on 10/20/24 at 1:54 am to FooManChoo
If prayer has brought you to this decision, and you are praying through Christ, I’m not going to argue you down. If you’re on the fence you should look at:
RvW and what is has allowed states to do
Title 9 and what our/your daughters may be/are losing
Take over of the Supreme Court and the final nail in our coffin
“You’re at the wrong rally”
The support for the Jewish people (hot topic I know)
Challenge to Genesis in man in our image
I’ve had many second guesses in regards to voting for DJT or not voting. But lessons from the Old Testament are constant reminders to me how God uses very broken humans to further His will.
I don’t mean to talk out of both sides of my mouth when I say I’m not going to argue you down. I’m just sharing the resolution I came to after the same exact thoughts you have.
His will be done; YBIC
RvW and what is has allowed states to do
Title 9 and what our/your daughters may be/are losing
Take over of the Supreme Court and the final nail in our coffin
“You’re at the wrong rally”
The support for the Jewish people (hot topic I know)
Challenge to Genesis in man in our image
I’ve had many second guesses in regards to voting for DJT or not voting. But lessons from the Old Testament are constant reminders to me how God uses very broken humans to further His will.
I don’t mean to talk out of both sides of my mouth when I say I’m not going to argue you down. I’m just sharing the resolution I came to after the same exact thoughts you have.
His will be done; YBIC
Posted on 10/20/24 at 1:57 am to FooManChoo
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I’ll be in Heaven and those who perpetrated the act will be judged by God.
As will you for doing nothing to stop the evil.
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