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Posted on 4/9/24 at 10:54 am to The Maj
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Exactly, you can pretty much tie the downfall of this country to them being allowed to vote...
We let people who have no fear of being drafted vote for war and people who don’t have to pay taxes vote for tax payers to pay their bills.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 10:55 am to Turbeauxdog
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The reasons for abortions change little even later in pregnancy. 80-90 percent convenience based.
You don't have to be so structurally misinformed, but if you weren't you might be forced to change your world views.
Possibly...show me the data that 80-90% of third trimester(which comprises 1% of all abortions) abortions are out of convenience.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 10:59 am to msutiger
Republicans finally got their wish. To have it become a state issue. Now live with that decision. Don't agree with the laws in the state of residence, then move to one where you do.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 11:04 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Yeah, the "rule of law" has been destroyed by interpretism..
what do you mean by this
Posted on 4/9/24 at 11:20 am to msutiger
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Christian principles are a good thing
Christian principles defend the slaughter of Egyptian, Canaanite, and Babylonian babies as morally just. They defend the forced abortions of Numbers chapter 5. Paul wrote that people ideally should not have kids and be celibate. Jesus said to literally castrate yourself to follow him. Records indicate that one of the main church fathers, Origen, literally did just that.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 11:22 am to FooManChoo
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A nation that does not fight for those most vulnerable--it's own children--is not a nation that has a good future ahead.
Truth
Posted on 4/9/24 at 11:23 am to VOR
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Abortion is a loser issue for the GOP.
The baby has way more to lose than the GOP
Posted on 4/9/24 at 11:31 am to loogaroo
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The GOP allowed themselves to be boxed in by pushing a “no exceptions” stance. A lot of moderate women want rape, incest and health of the mother to be exceptions.
Why are any of these things a justification for murder? Rape almost never results in a pregnancy. I could understand wanting to kill the rapist not the baby.
Incest is not even really an issue again what the hell does that mean? There’s that many people sleeping with their siblings ? I guess it’s their business but I don’t see what that has to do with abortion
Health of the mother is too vague and general that can mean anything
This post was edited on 4/9/24 at 11:34 am
Posted on 4/9/24 at 11:35 am to Revelator
I don’t think these GOP people understand that their party is already dead because it’s no different than the democrats and for that reason we don’t really care that it’s dead
This post was edited on 4/9/24 at 11:37 am
Posted on 4/9/24 at 11:36 am to Revelator
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The baby has way more to lose than the GOP
So you're willing to lose every bit of power for this?
I mean I call it virtue signaling, but it's actually worse than that. Will these babies be better off in a world like today or one where DEMs dominate even more? Losing elections gives DEMs more power.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 11:37 am to SlowFlowPro
Again there’s no difference between the two parties. Electing republicans has gotten us zero nothing. It’s actually worse because they pretend to be different and then stab you in the back
This post was edited on 4/9/24 at 11:38 am
Posted on 4/9/24 at 11:38 am to Gaborkiraly8
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Again there’s no difference between the two parties. Electing republicans has gotten us zero nothing
Well now we have entered the "we're just going to lie" portion of the cope hierarchy
Posted on 4/9/24 at 11:41 am to SlowFlowPro
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So you're willing to lose every bit of power for this?
The GOP has already lost power and they have because they’ve compromised at every turn.
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I mean I call it virtue signaling,
So it’s virtual signaling to want to protect the innocent
This post was edited on 4/9/24 at 11:42 am
Posted on 4/9/24 at 11:43 am to Revelator
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The GOP has already lost power
Specifically by giving too much leeway/power to extremists and becoming decidedly unpopular (which matters in a democracy)
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So it’s virtual signaling to want to protect the innocent
You're costing more of them their lives with your short-sightedness. Why didn't you quote the rest?
Posted on 4/9/24 at 11:47 am to Revelator
Ur kILLiNg thE GOp wItH thIS abORtIOn stUFF!!!
Dont threaten me with a good time
Dont threaten me with a good time
This post was edited on 4/9/24 at 11:50 am
Posted on 4/9/24 at 11:48 am to Gaborkiraly8
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Ur kILLiNg thE GOp!!!
Dont threaten me with a good time
So your idea of a good time is literal Democrat/Leftist domination? Because that's what's going happen if we go down the road you're promoting.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 11:49 am to Squirrelmeister
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Christian principles defend the slaughter of Egyptian, Canaanite, and Babylonian babies as morally just.
Actually the Bible makes a clear distinction. Not all groups were slaughtered. The ones related to the nephilim or giants were wiped out. Now whether they were actually giants or not is not relevant to the conversation. What is relevant is that these tribes participated in demonic worship that included ritualistic human sacrifices. The Israelites were introducing a completely new way of life in a barbaric world. There was zero room for coexistence. The consequences of coexistence with pagan nations are made clear throughout the Old Testament.
You are also interpreting these stories through a modern moral lens which is a mistake.
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They defend the forced abortions of Numbers chapter 5. Paul wrote that people ideally should not have kids and be celibate.
What a ridiculous interpretation of Numbers 5.
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Jesus said to literally castrate yourself to follow him. Records indicate that one of the main church fathers, Origen, literally did just that.
Jesus spent most of his ministry speaking in parables which is what makes Paul’s preaching so valuable. Jesus also said to gouge your eye out if it causes you to sin. Did he mean actually take a spoon and gouge your eye out? Or did he mean throw away the things in your life that lead you to sin.
Posted on 4/9/24 at 11:53 am to SlowFlowPro
That’s fine with me. Were already there anyway and that’s what drives resistance
Posted on 4/9/24 at 12:19 pm to msutiger
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Actually the Bible makes a clear distinction. Not all groups were slaughtered.
What’s your point? Midianite and Canaanite babies were killed by the Israelites. There weren’t all killed? But some of them were. Let’s focus on the ones that were killed. Are you going to argue that killing babies en masse is morally justified and “good”?
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The ones related to the nephilim or giants were wiped out.
Hey, extra-biblical books! I like it.
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What is relevant is that these tribes participated in demonic worship that included ritualistic human sacrifices
Be careful with this logic, because they Israelites themselves practiced human sacrifice and did worship many other gods. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. With that logic, if the Canaanite slaughter was justified because of that, then the Israelites should’ve been wiped out too.
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What a ridiculous interpretation of Numbers 5.
Why is it ridiculous? Husband suspects wife of adultery. Priest makes magic abortion potion as a test. If she’s guilty of adultery, she miscarries - the baby is killed by the potion. If she’s innocent, the unborn baby lives.
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Jesus also said to gouge your eye out if it causes you to sin. Did he mean actually take a spoon and gouge your eye out? Or did he mean throw away the things in your life that lead you to sin.
You might be right. But Origen disagreed as he castrated himself (allegedly).
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