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re: JD Vance On Ukraine: “We’re Done.”
Posted on 8/11/25 at 7:41 am to Eurocat
Posted on 8/11/25 at 7:41 am to Eurocat
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But they cannot keep what they attacked and took over now because some shite they took over, mineral mines and all that and a nuke station, that stuff has a lot of value. Sorry Russia, give it back.
Everyone gets a trophy, war edition
You progressives are such a stupid bunch.
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 7:47 am to YouKnowImRight
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Vance is wrong. I don't want Russia attacking a NATO country and getting us in an Article 5 conflict. The only way to do that is to beat them in Ukraine. I'd rather beat them now with minimal cost and other people's soldiers than an all out NATO war.
yes! and george w. bush, who loves the baby jesus, protected us from iraq's weepins of mass destruction!
war is peace! war is freedom! war is our democracy!
Posted on 8/11/25 at 7:48 am to dickkellog
Dubbya saw Christ in Putin's eyes
Posted on 8/11/25 at 7:52 am to Eurocat
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Ukraine has shown
that is cant do anything without being fully funded by the rest of the world, mainly us
Posted on 8/11/25 at 7:52 am to YouKnowImRight
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Vance is wrong. I don't want Russia attacking a NATO country and getting us in an Article 5 conflict. The only way to do that is to beat them in Ukraine. I'd rather beat them now with minimal cost and other people's soldiers than an all out NATO war.
Exactly how do you propose for Ukraine to actually win this war? And by win, I mean meet their stated goal of driving all Russian forces off what they consider to be Ukrainian territory.
Lay out your strategy along with the forces to be used to carry out your audacious plan.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 7:55 am to YouKnowImRight
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YouKnowImRight
Moron
Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:05 am to Darth_Vader
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Exactly how do you propose for Ukraine to actually win this war? And by win, I mean meet their stated goal of driving all Russian forces off what they consider to be Ukrainian territory.
Lay out your strategy along with the forces to be used to carry out your audacious plan.
1) Hold out long enough for European MIC to get up to speed
2) Utilize aid from NATO and hand me down US weapons to eliminate Russia's ability to project power and invade other sovereign nations.
This has been the plan all along, and now Trump understands this is the way.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:06 am to YouKnowImRight
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2) Utilize aid from NATO and hand me down US weapons to eliminate Russia's ability to project power and invade other sovereign nations.
I want you to fully explain this to me
Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:11 am to YouKnowImRight
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YouKnowImRight
Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:13 am to Jay Quest
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Letting Putin know the US will sell arms to European countries supplying Ukraine forces is a strong message.
Shows our resolve is weak and that Putin should continue the long game.....
Not saying it's a bad plan just wouldn't box myself in with stuff like this before negotiations. No sense in showing our cards
Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:15 am to LuckyTiger
They got a good cop bad cop routine going.
Let's see how everything plays out before getting too excited or disappointed.
Let's see how everything plays out before getting too excited or disappointed.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:19 am to YouKnowImRight
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Vance is wrong. I don't want Russia attacking a NATO country and getting us in an Article 5 conflict. The only way to do that is to beat them in Ukraine. I'd rather beat them now with minimal cost and other people's soldiers than an all out NATO war.
Are you trying to set a record for downvotes on a TD forum?
Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:20 am to YouKnowImRight
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The only way to do that is to beat them in Ukraine.
You are an idiot... Russia would not attack a NATO member unless it was ready to go nuclear...
Ukraine is worthless to the US and has only cost us money, after money, after money...
Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:28 am to YouKnowImRight
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1) Hold out long enough for European MIC to get up to speed
my god you're a child "european MIC" has been neglected for decades not years decades. the UK has a total 168 operational fighter jets.
give your mother her phone back and stop posting here.
you need to understand something jethrine these colors run, every time since veitnam we've let the big dog of the chain they get chased back on the porch with their tail between their legs. he11 boy irag didn't even have an air force.
you need to take a good long look at this picture and commit it to memory....we lost to these guys
Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:34 am to YouKnowImRight
quote:Russia has been in Ukraine for 3.5 years and hasn’t been able to take and hold more than a few small areas of territory in eastern Ukraine.
Vance is wrong. I don't want Russia attacking a NATO country and getting us in an Article 5 conflict
If Russia can barely handle Ukraine, what makes you think they would want the smoke that would come with attacking a NATO country? Ukraine has been fighting with older F-16’s and Soviet era Migs. You think Russia wants to have to defend against F-35’s and B-2’s? Or a real navy?
Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:47 am to YouKnowImRight
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I don't want Russia attacking a NATO country and getting us in an Article 5 conflict.
When is the last time Russia was victorious in an offensive war?
Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:15 am to LuckyTiger
Russia might not be able to take half of Ukraine. Maybe, we give them some drones to destroy Russia bomber fleet. I am up for that one.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:17 am to Load Toad
Russia is a disaster......I hope Don knows that
Maybe someone in his Shallow State will tell him
He tends to show up for summits unprepared gets embarrassed and leaves.
In the past, Putin explained everything to Trump with his spin on things
Maybe someone in his Shallow State will tell him
He tends to show up for summits unprepared gets embarrassed and leaves.
In the past, Putin explained everything to Trump with his spin on things
Posted on 8/11/25 at 10:39 am to Eurocat
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Then NATO should take it back. Russia should not be allowed to invade and take territory,
Absolutely not.
There is nothing in Ukraine that deserves a single drop of American blood to be dropped.
Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries on the planet and politicians use it as a way to funnel money back to themselves.
We need to stop providing financial aid to EVERY country, especially Ukraine. If Ukraine or the EU wants to buy weapons thats fine but we need to stay out of it. All those weapons shipments are doing is delaying the inevitable. Russia is not giving back any land. Before someone says something about all the dead Russians, they need to remember that is how the Russians fight war. They keep throwing bodies at you until you give up.
They did it to Napoleon. They did it to Hitler. They they are doing it to the gay dude who plays the piano with his penis.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 10:42 am to LuckyTiger
It's in Ukraine's best interest to just accept the deal and give Putin what he has. Ukraine does not have the capability to retake what Russia has already taken.
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