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re: JD Vance On Ukraine: “We’re Done.”

Posted on 8/11/25 at 2:24 am to
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
22585 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 2:24 am to
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YouKnowImRight


You are a reprehensible choad in every sense of the word. Pack your bags for next flight to front line if you want more bloodshed
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19925 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 2:25 am to
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Ukraine has shown it can kicl arse as a military and spends the 5 percent on defense NATO demands.


Uh, because the country is run by a corrupt nazi? He has destroyed his country, while gaining enormous personal wealth, and continues to try and drag the world at large into a war.
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
17931 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 2:31 am to
Well your wrong Ukrain ain't NATO Americ first not frickin UKRAIN dumbass
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19925 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 2:31 am to
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Russia is not so strong as you think, I believe they could negotiate that away.


100s of thousands of dead ukranians would beg to differ.

In the words of Alexander the Great "why would I negotiate for something I already have".

Thats akin to Russia coming to the table and saying, okay give me several of the oblasts I dont have yet and Ill stop fighting. Would that sound reasonable?

Perhaps we should give back Texas, Cali and the whole southwest if Mexico stops shipping people over?
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19821 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 2:47 am to
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Do you still think Russia is a communist country?

This war has nothing to do with ideology or politics. Russia is only doing the same thing they've been doing for the past few hundred years militarily......securing geographic blocking positions. On the European side, they've previously been invaded through the Polish and Bessarabian Gaps by Germany, France, Romania, Poland, Sweden, and the Ottomans......not to mention the Mongols from the West. This war was always going to happen.
Posted by SlayTime
Member since Jan 2025
3738 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 3:26 am to
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Russia can barely hold a small portion of Ukraine. Putin isn’t attacking NATO, lol.


This is how you know the whole thing is a psy-op. Muh Putler has been fighting 5 years and controls a sliver of Ukraine, but the entire continent of Europe is next if he defeats Ukraine. You can’t make this shite up.
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
10721 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 5:33 am to
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Strong message to put out prior to negotiations with Puti

Letting Putin know the US will sell arms to European countries supplying Ukraine forces is a strong message.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16879 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 5:40 am to
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The only way to do that is to beat them in Ukraine. I'd rather beat them now with minimal cost and other people's soldiers than an all out NATO war.
Posted by geauxtigers
Biloxi Mississippi
Member since Nov 2003
2586 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 5:45 am to
This is the way
Posted by geauxtigers
Biloxi Mississippi
Member since Nov 2003
2586 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 5:46 am to
He will not FAFO lol
Posted by geauxtigers
Biloxi Mississippi
Member since Nov 2003
2586 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 5:48 am to
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
24771 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 5:49 am to
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Do you still think Russia is a communist country?


Well, since I’ve been there a few times (5 years ago is the most recent) I know it’s not communist, but Putin is a dictator. Their “elections” are for show. Call it what you want, but it’s no democracy or rep republic.

I don’t listen to or watch western media for the record.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
10001 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 5:54 am to
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Dude makes a damn good point to at least give legit consideration to, even if one ultimately comes to disagree. It’s unsettling that folks are apparently so outraged at the mere thought.


No one is “outraged at the thought”. We’re outraged at seeing politicians continue to print money and send it to the other side of the world and add it to the national debt just to pump up our war industries here.
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
19296 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 6:09 am to
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Now America's promise is again in question. America should not go back on its word if our word is to mean anything at all.


Glad to see you support our efforts to help Israel who we literally have treaty obligations to as an official ally.

I don’t personally support sending troops into either Israel nor Ukraine but if the government (Trump) decides to send Americans into a hot zone I won’t complain about it being Israel. I will be pissed off if we go live in Ukraine since they are not an ally.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76348 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 6:34 am to
It's been considered for four years.
Most say no.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23646 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 6:49 am to
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Vance is wrong. I don't want Russia attacking a NATO country and getting us in an Article 5 conflict. The only way to do that is to beat them in Ukraine. I'd rather beat them now with minimal cost and other people's soldiers than an all out NATO war


What you want will never happen. Its not possible without additional boots on the ground which Ukraine is doesn't have.
Zylinski should have and could have settled this 2 weeks after it started. The longer Zylinski continues, the nore kices amd land he will lose.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
80682 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 6:52 am to
This is what I voted fo(R).
Posted by lsujunky
Down By The River
Member since Jun 2011
2692 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 7:01 am to
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I don't want Russia attacking a NATO country


Do you think Putin is that stupid as to attack a NATO country. That war would be very short.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23646 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 7:26 am to
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Ukraine has shown it can kicl arse as a military and spends the 5 percent on defense NATO demands


Seriously??? As long as somebody pays for all their weapons and offers them satellites and the trained personnel to target and pays for thier entire government to continue to operate...... yeah, sounds like the perfect NATO member!!
As far as that 5%... Ukraine will be busy for the next decade replacing infrastructure, roadways, and cities.
Posted by TheDeerHunter
Deer woods
Member since Jun 2025
278 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 7:36 am to
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Russia can barely hold a small portion of Ukraine


Are you serious dude?? Stop watching FoxNews aka Israel / Neocon Times.
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