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re: Jacobs' account of what happened contradicts the Fox reporters' accounts

Posted on 5/25/17 at 6:28 pm to
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 6:28 pm to
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Did Jacobs say that Gianforte grabbed the recorder?


He clearly did grab it

Did Gianforte ask him to leave before assaulting him?

You keep saying it's right after the recorder is in his face and before he assaults him?

Then why isn't it on the recorder. According to you it's in his face.

Again, this is a person that thinks he found the Jersey Devil in Sacramento.
This post was edited on 5/25/17 at 6:30 pm
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 6:30 pm to
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female Fox reporter is changing her story and is now saying she is not certain whether Gianforte grabbed Jacobs' neck at all let alone with both hands.


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High standards of Fox News Reporting are on full display.


In other words, I'm right that Gianforte first grabbed the recorder Jacobs stuck in his face.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 6:32 pm to
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Did Jacobs say that Gianforte grabbed the recorder?


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He clearly did grab it


And what did Jacobs do after Gianforte grabbed the recorder?

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Did Gianforte ask him to leave before allegedly assaulting him?


FIFY

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You keep saying it's right after the recorder is in his face and before he assaults him?


I keep saying what?

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Then why isn't it on the recorder. According to you it's in his face.


Why isn't what on the recorder?

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Again, this is a person that thinks he found the Jersey Devil in Sacramento.


You're just a chickenshit little skeptic who doesn't have the balls to accept our challenge but just wants to imply that my brother and I are crazy.

Put your money where your big mouth is, chickenshit little skeptic!
This post was edited on 5/25/17 at 6:40 pm
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27167 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 6:36 pm to
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And what did Jacobs do after Gianforte grabbed the recorder? 


Sounds like he tries to secure his property while he was being assaulted.

Why isn't he being asked to leave on the tape? According to you it should be there right?


But then again you're the guy that claims he found a leprechaun at a truck stop so...

This post was edited on 5/25/17 at 6:37 pm
Posted by Bullethead88
Half way between LSU and Tulane
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 6:36 pm to
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Did Jacobs say that Gianforte grabbed the recorder?


That's how your gonna do this, huh. Your straw man argument is that Gianforte grabbed Jacobs' recorder.

And in your mind that makes it impossible or even implausible for Gianforte to have then grabbed Jacobs by the throat, shoved him to the ground, jumped on top of Jacobs, and punched him in the face, correct?.






Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 6:48 pm to
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And what did Jacobs do after Gianforte grabbed the recorder? 


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Sounds like he tries to secure his property while he was allegedly being battered


FIFY

How does Jacobs try to secure his property?

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Why isn't he being asked to leave on the tape?


Did you hear the conversation earlier on the tape before the portion that was quoted in this thread?

If not then listen to it and get back to me.

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But then again you're the guy that claims he found a leprechaun at a truck stop so...


And you're the chickenshit little skeptic who...
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27167 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 6:50 pm to
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And you're the chickenshit little skeptic who...


Who doesn't believe in fricking fairytales or fictional beasts.

The shite you've been spouting this entire thread.
This post was edited on 5/25/17 at 6:51 pm
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 6:56 pm to
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Did Jacobs say that Gianforte grabbed the recorder?


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That's how your gonna do this, huh. Your straw man argument is that Gianforte grabbed Jacobs' recorder.


Did you read the title of this thread?

The two Fox reporters originally claimed that Gianforte first grabbed Jacobs' neck with BOTH HANDS and I merely pointed out that on Georgey boy's show Jacobs admitted Gianforte first grabbed the recorder.

That's all this thread was going to be about but for some reason you and some others can't admit I am correct that Jacob's account contradicts the two Fox reporters' original accounts.

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And in your mind that makes it impossible or even implausible for Gianforte to have then grabbed Jacobs by the throat, shoved him to the ground, jumped on top of Jacobs, and punched him in the face, correct?.


Gianforte couldn't first grab Jacob by the throat with BOTH HANDS and also first grab the recorder that Jacobs stuck in his face.

If you think Gianforte could do both things at the same time then explain to me how he could do that?

After you explain how Gianforte could do both things at the same time then I'll discuss what happened after that.
This post was edited on 5/25/17 at 7:04 pm
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 7:08 pm to
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And you're the chickenshit little skeptic who...


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Who doesn't believe in fricking fairytales or fictional beasts.

The shite you've been spouting this entire thread.



Chicken!
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 7:31 pm to
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What do you claim I am making up?
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You're combining the events of the released statement (which no one has confirmed and the audio contradicts) then mixing up the sequence of events that occurred on the tape.


The only sequence of events I mixed up was when I said:

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If I remember it correctly, after Gianforte said "speak with Shane please" Jacobs refused to leave and said something about there not being time to do that then stuck the recorder in Gianforte's face again.


Then mmcgraph posted a partial transcript.

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Ben Jacobs, a reporter for The Guardian: ...the CBO score. Because, you know, you were waiting to make your decision about health care until you saw the bill and it just came out...

Greg Gianforte, the congressional candidate: Yeah, we’ll talk to you about that later.

Jacobs: Yeah, but there’s not going to be time. I’m just curious—

Gianforte: Okay, speak with Shane, please.

[loud scuffling noises, an even louder crash, repeated thumping]

Gianforte: [shouting] I’m sick and tired of you guys!


According to the partial transcript after Jacobs refused to leave and said "Yeah, but there’s not going to be time. I’m just curious—" then Gianforte said "Okay, speak with Shane please". Immediately after that Jacobs stuck the recorder in Gianforte's face again and that's when Gianforte grabbed the recorder and the scuffle began.

That's really combining the events then mixing up the sequence of events that occurred on the tape.
/sarcasm
This post was edited on 5/25/17 at 7:35 pm
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27167 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 7:32 pm to
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Immediately after that Jacobs stuck the recorder in Gianforte's face again 


Prove it.

You can start with this and then The tooth fairy.
This post was edited on 5/25/17 at 7:33 pm
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
63219 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 7:42 pm to
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You can't assault people.


Reporters and racist democrats aren't people
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 7:42 pm to
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Immediately after that Jacobs stuck the recorder in Gianforte's face again 


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Prove it.


How was Gianforte able to grab the recorder if Jacobs didn't stick it in Gianforte's face again.

Before you answer, remember that on Georgey boy's show Jacobs admitted Gianforte first grabbed the recorder then the scuffle started after that.
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27167 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 7:47 pm to
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How was Gianforte able to grab the recorder if Jacobs didn't stick it in Gianforte's face again. 



No wonder you believe in mythical sea creatures.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 7:54 pm to
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How was Gianforte able to grab the recorder if Jacobs didn't stick it in Gianforte's face again. 


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No wonder you believe in mythical sea creatures.


Answer the question, chickenshit.

Remember, Jacobs admitted on Georgey boy's show this morning that Gianforte first grabbed the recorder.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 8:04 pm to
Hahahahaha! There are 34 people who can't admit that Jacobs admitting Gianforte first grabbed the recorder contradicts the two Fox reporters' original account that Gianforte first grabbed Jacobs' neck with BOTH HANDS.
This post was edited on 5/25/17 at 10:13 pm
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87383 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 8:13 pm to
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One of the problems with society today is the pussification of men.

60 years ago, if someone shoved a mic in another man's face after that man told him to leave him alone, and the man with the mic got his assed kicked, everyone would have said, "he had it coming." Mr. Mic would have been laughed off and told to get a life.

Today-if you kick someone's arse for ramming a mic in your face, you are castigated, prosecuted, and Mr. Mic gets on all of the morning talk shows to talk about how he is a victim.

So yes-frick gaping, weeping vaginas like Mr. Mic and everyone who thinks he didn't need his arse kicked. They are what is wrong with a large portion of society.



You sound pretty stupid, honestly. Which isn't masculine at all.

Some reporter you'd never heard of got choked slam by a politician in a special election you didn't know was occurring.

And today, it's some proxy fight for "manhood." We're totally fricked, and it's only partially because reporters don't fight candidates. It's also because we've got pseudo-men who think praising reporters getting assaulted makes them "real men."

Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27167 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 8:27 pm to
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Answer the question, chickenshit. 


I already did Mr. Make believe.

Yet you can't seem to find in the audio where he was told to leave between the initial question and assault.

And as you said plenty of times the recorder is in his face. There is absolutely no time between when he was told to speak with Shane and when Jacobs was assaulted, so it isn't there.

I'll let you have the last word, you clearly need it.
This post was edited on 5/25/17 at 8:28 pm
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 8:49 pm to
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Answer the question, chickenshit. 


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I already did Mr. Make believe.


Post a link to where you answered it, Mr. Chickenshit.

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Yet you can't seem to find in the audio where he was told to leave between the initial question and assault.


Jacobs was asked to leave before the initial question was asked.

Does that make you feel better?

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And as you said plenty of times the recorder is in his face. There is absolutely no time between when he was told to speak with Shane and when Jacobs was assaulted, so it isn't there.


Then answer this question.

If the recorder was not in Gianforte's face at that time then why did Jacobs admit on Georgey boy's show that Gianforte first grabbed the recorder at that time?

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I'll let you have the last word, you clearly need it.


You clearly need to learn to use the word alleged.
This post was edited on 5/25/17 at 8:50 pm
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 5/25/17 at 9:14 pm to
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Some reporter you'd never heard of got choked slam by a politician in a special election you didn't know was occurring.


Show me the video of Jacobs getting choked slammed by Gianforte.

After all, Jacob said on Georgey boy's show that Gianforte first grabbed the recorder and the next thing he knew he was lying on his back on the floor.

Also, one of the two Fox reporters has changed her story and now says she can't even say that Gianforte even grabbed Jacob's neck let alone grabbed it with BOTH HANDS.

Show me the video.

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So yes-frick gaping, weeping vaginas like Mr. Mic and everyone who thinks he didn't need his arse kicked. They are what is wrong with a large portion of society.


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And today, it's some proxy fight for "manhood." We're totally fricked, and it's only partially because reporters don't fight candidates. It's also because we've got pseudo-men who think praising reporters getting assaulted makes them "real men."


People who think a reporter didn't cause a fight because he refused to stop putting a recorder in someone's face after being told politely that his question will be answered later or if there isn't time to do that is politely told to talk to an aide is one thing that is wrong with this country.

Another thing that is wrong with this country is when a bunch of fascist sore loser lefties are allowed to get away with having a riot in order to stop Milo from speaking and when a bunch of fascist sore loser lefties are allowed to get away with threatening to have a riot in order to stop Ann Coulter from speaking.
This post was edited on 5/25/17 at 9:26 pm
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