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re: Jacksonville Police investigate themselves and, as per usual, find themselves not-guilty
Posted on 7/23/25 at 5:57 am to VADawg
Posted on 7/23/25 at 5:57 am to VADawg
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Having such low expectations for hoodrats and being alright with it is a huge, huge problem in American society right now.
??? Why is this driver a "hood rat"??
Because he knows the law better than the fricktard cops?
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Posted on 7/23/25 at 5:58 am to Grumpy Nemesis
NO. The problem in ALL these incidents starts with these self-entitled hood rats not complying with the police.
WTF they think they are special? This shite then usually goes bad and the cops can easily get hurt or a car chase starts putting innocent lives at risk.
Explain to us what right the a-hole has to not comply ?
WTF they think they are special? This shite then usually goes bad and the cops can easily get hurt or a car chase starts putting innocent lives at risk.
Explain to us what right the a-hole has to not comply ?
Posted on 7/23/25 at 6:19 am to TigerGman
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Explain to us what right the a-hole has to not comply ?
The Bill of Rights...
What other questions do you have?
Posted on 7/23/25 at 6:25 am to AUcs13
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Did you mean to use the term pre-textual? Because pre-textual stops are legal.
horse shite
Posted on 7/23/25 at 6:34 am to Grumpy Nemesis
quote:I have been pulled over for having a headlight out when it wasn’t raining.
Tell me how often YOU have met someone who got pulled over for no lights when it WAS NOT frickING RAINING!
Does that count?
Posted on 7/23/25 at 7:02 am to Harry Rex Vonner
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The Bill of Rights...
What other questions do you have?
What other questions do I have? I have a couple for now. Where in the bill of rights does it say you can pick and choose if you want to comply with a police command?
And you're saying I can just pick and choose when I want to comply or say hell no officer, that's not a good reason and be on my merry way?
This post was edited on 7/23/25 at 7:04 am
Posted on 7/23/25 at 7:26 am to Grumpy Nemesis
you're a child and need to grow up did you not have parents?
i got it kid every cop is a criminal and all the sinners saints.
you don't need no stinking registration and proof of insurance!
i got it kid every cop is a criminal and all the sinners saints.
you don't need no stinking registration and proof of insurance!
Posted on 7/23/25 at 7:33 am to TigerGman
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What other questions do I have? I have a couple for now. Where in the bill of rights does it say you can pick and choose if you want to comply with a police command?
And you're saying I can just pick and choose when I want to comply or say hell no officer, that's not a good reason and be on my merry way?
4th amendment per probable cause
this stupid cop literally pulled the guy over for no headlights on, and the other cops also did not have headlights on
reasonable suspicion does not cut it
Posted on 7/23/25 at 7:36 am to Harry Rex Vonner
yes you should point that out next time you get stopped by a cop and be sure to make plenty of unexpected movements!
Posted on 7/23/25 at 7:44 am to Grumpy Nemesis
Again, you’re upset because you believe that there was no PC for the stop which is fine. But you mistakenly had an issue with it being a “pre-textual” stop when those are in fact legal and upheld by the courts.
Posted on 7/23/25 at 8:46 am to TigerGman
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Where in the bill of rights does it say you can pick and choose if you want to comply with a police command
You think that everything the police officer might say is a lawful order you must comply with? Well that's half your problem right there dummy
Posted on 7/23/25 at 8:47 am to Grumpy Nemesis
They’re just that good.
Posted on 7/23/25 at 8:48 am to AUcs13
quote:lots of bad behavior is legal. I'm sorry that's a difficult concept for you to understand
But you mistakenly had an issue with it being a “pre-textual” stop when those are in fact legal and upheld by the courts.
Posted on 7/23/25 at 9:18 am to Sofaking2
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I think I would comply and fight this thing in court.
You mean you'd actually follow the process that is already in place?
Its almost like they should teach this in schools.
Posted on 7/23/25 at 9:42 am to kengel2
quote:Lord knows we might as well teach that in schools because we're damn sure not teaching the police their job. That's what we should teach in schools. We should teach everybody to just operate on the assumption that nobody gives a frick if cops are trained or not or if they know their job.
You mean you'd actually follow the process that is already in place?
Its almost like they should teach this in schools
Posted on 7/23/25 at 12:06 pm to Grumpy Nemesis
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1. This skips right over the fact the officer pulled the guy over for not having his lights on in inclement weather AND IT WASN"T RAINING!!!!! Come on
No it doesn’t. You cannot argue the validity of a traffic stop on the side of the road. That can only be done in court. You can refuse to identify, and then get the officer on record stating that you will be arrested if you do not identify. That is the point where your rights are violated. A cop mistakingly pulling you over is not a rights violation.
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2. Ya know. There's no rule that says a cop has to get violent inside of 20 seconds.
There’s no rule saying they can’t. I’m not going to give them a reason to get violent and I’m still going to win a lawsuit against the officer. Like the driver should have done.
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I'm continually fascinated by how people like you treat these interactions as if we're talking about coequals in terms of responsibility. "Oh, if the driver had only been better.......blah blah blah". You always have higher expectations of the citizen than you do the fricking supposed professional who is an agent of the state and STARTED the interaction in the 1st place
I never excused any of the police officers behavior. The officer should be fired. The driver is also an idiot who thinks he knows more about the law or how to handle a situation like this than he really does. Those two statements are not mutually exclusive to anyone other than you apparently.
Posted on 7/23/25 at 12:14 pm to Grumpy Nemesis
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You think that everything the police officer might say is a lawful order you must comply with? Well that's half your problem right there dummy
Yeah. THat;s exactly what I'm saying numbnutts. You got a US Supreme court case that say it's up to the the person, not the cop, to decide if they want to comply or not?
Posted on 7/23/25 at 12:17 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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4th amendment per probable cause
this stupid cop literally pulled the guy over for no headlights on
So let me get this straight. Show me in the 4th amendment where is says the potential perp has the right to resist a "Terry" stop or an arrest cause they think there is no probable cause. Specific language only.
Posted on 7/23/25 at 12:25 pm to YipSkiddlyDooo
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No it doesn’t. You cannot argue the validity of a traffic stop on the side of the road
That doesn't change that it was invalid which means it doesn't excuse that it was invalid.
Posted on 7/23/25 at 12:26 pm to YipSkiddlyDooo
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I never excused any of the police officers behavior. The officer should be fired. The driver is also an idiot who thinks he knows more about the law or how to handle a situation like this than he really does. Those two statements are not mutually exclusive to anyone other than you apparently
Correct. But only one of them is hired by the public. Only one of them can be affected by policy created by the public. So that's the only one I give a frick about.
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