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It's Time For a National Coversation About The CIA

Posted on 4/26/26 at 11:47 am
Posted by lake chuck fan
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Posted on 4/26/26 at 11:47 am
Sundance presents indisputable analysis about the CIA's role in many, not so good, government debacles.

There is more to the article that I didn't paste. If your interested in the intelligence agencies role in frickery, it's worth reading the rest of the article.
IMHO


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By now most people who follow politics understand how the CIA and State Department operate collaboratively in most foreign endeavors. Many CIA operatives have State Department covers. The CIA also works jointly with the State Dept on influence operations through USAID, which makes some recent events a little uncomfortable.


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It is hard to argue against the possibility that behind some of the domestic violent extremists (what the FBI calls DVEs) is a network of finance that traces back to the CIA. It is a fact that USAID is -in part- a CIA influence operation. If the SPLC is funded by USAID, then who was ultimately funding the SPLC influence operations? It is an uncomfortable question.

As we researched several serious issues in the past two decades one thing always surfaces, the intelligence community is often at the heart of the matter. As a historic example, during research into the Benghazi, Libya chaos that ultimately led to the death of Ambassador Chris Stevens it became almost impossible to distinguish the CIA operatives from the State Dept objective.

In fact, we said the same thing about the CIA and the Qatar officials who were part of that background Libya story. It was almost impossible to tell a difference between the CIA operatives and the Qatari facilitators. The money was fungible and the Libya operation was an enmeshed network of mutually aligned government interests.




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Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/26/26 at 11:54 am to
The CIA is just a manifestation of the will of the non-elected power structures (corporate interests/lobbyists, globalism, bureaucracies, etc).

If the non-elected powers are addressed the CIA and other similar institutions would go back to mostly enacting the will of the elected officials and therefore to some degree acting in the furtherance of the will of the people.

Until then nothing will change.

The CIA function isnt the problem, but a symptom IMO just like the DOJ and FBI.

The people and interests directing its function are the problem and what we complain about to a large degree is just a reflection of that underlying issue.

Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 4/26/26 at 12:08 pm to
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The CIA function isnt the problem, but a symptom IMO just like the DOJ and FBI.

The people and interests directing its function are the problem and what we complain about to a large degree is just a reflection of that underlying issue.


Well stated.

Posted by Timeoday
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Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 4/26/26 at 12:14 pm to
What the CIA did for the growth of cancer should scare the hell out of everyone. Now, toss in what the CIA has done for the illegal drug cartels.....

They do not care about us!!

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Dr. Oschner says, "Hello"!!
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 4/26/26 at 12:18 pm to
For decades, the CIA was weaponized....DJT is trying to change that.

They need to start acting on lunatics like this creep.....they were alerted about his instability,

It is a HUGE task to watch the world....really impossible to be 100% effective.

The only answer is to put the evil people away, FOREVER!
This post was edited on 4/26/26 at 12:21 pm
Posted by lake chuck fan
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/26/26 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

The CIA is just a manifestation of the will of the non-elected power structures (corporate interests/lobbyists, globalism, bureaucracies, etc).

If the non-elected powers are addressed the CIA and other similar institutions would go back to mostly enacting the will of the elected officials and therefore to some degree acting in the furtherance of the will of the people.

Until then nothing will change.

The CIA function isnt the problem, but a symptom IMO just like the DOJ and FBI.

The people and interests directing its function are the problem and what we complain about to a large degree is just a reflection of that underlying issue


I agree to a certain extent. I believe much of what the corrupt part of the intelligence communities do is not so much directed by elected congress memebers but more so by ultra rich corporate entities that have one single purpose: TO INCREASE PROFITS.
The CIA has been used in the past to manipulate and capitulate foreign governments or influence to the benefit of huge corporate interests.
Trump's latest National Security Strategy and his MAGA vision is in direct opposition to corporate America.
Posted by lake chuck fan
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/26/26 at 12:22 pm to
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Dr. Mary's Monkey: How the Unsolved Murder of a Doctor, a Secret Laboratory in New Orleans and Cancer-Causing Monkey Viruses Are Linked to Lee Harvey, the JFK Assassination and Emerging Global Epidemics


I watched a video(maybe this same one) about this subject. Unbelievable and disgusting corruption.

Another one, not so much involving the CIA, but Big Pharma using the FDA and Texas Medical Board against Dr. Burzynski in Houston TX.

Posted by goatmilker
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 4/26/26 at 12:26 pm to
To hold the CiA accountable only a national state of emergency, surrounding HQ then entering and seizing all past and present top operators and their com equipment would maybe, do anything. Even then upon being approached they may set off a nuke and a war somewhere. Yes. They have access to their own.
Posted by Django Unchained
Member since Sep 2025
878 posts
Posted on 4/26/26 at 12:45 pm to
Great post Lake Chuck, I believe the CIA has become one of the most Anti-American organizations on the planet.

I believe they control elections here in the US and work to subvert Presidents who don’t align with their worldview… including Kennedy, Nixon, Reagan and Trump.

I think th CIA should be broken into ten thousand pieces and scattered to the wind.
Posted by Timeoday
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Posted on 4/26/26 at 1:02 pm to
DITTO
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
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Posted on 4/26/26 at 1:06 pm to
Power hungry control freaks that are corrupt as hell ~ entire system.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23158 posts
Posted on 4/26/26 at 1:15 pm to
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I think th CIA should be broken into ten thousand pieces and scattered to the wind.

I mean with FISA and the patriot act in place does that fix the issue or how do you define the reasons for destroying the CIA?
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23158 posts
Posted on 4/26/26 at 1:17 pm to
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Power hungry control freaks that are corrupt as hell ~ entire system.

I mean I believe we could eliminate 70% of the federal apparatus and be better off overall so you’re preaching to the choir here haha.
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 4/26/26 at 3:42 pm to
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/26/26 at 3:45 pm to
Wasn't this stuff in the JFK released FBI files? Everybody just forgot about that didn't they?
Posted by tiggerfan02 2021
HSV
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 4/26/26 at 4:07 pm to
No, it is not time for a damn conversation about them.

It is time to shut the whole damn agency down and salt the ground it has inhabited.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
22731 posts
Posted on 4/26/26 at 6:07 pm to
Memories are short. They count on it too.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
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Posted on 4/27/26 at 8:44 pm to
Amazing isn’t it?
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33584 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 9:44 pm to
If Trump came out and said that he was dismantling the CIA as we know it, they’d assassinate him within a month.
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