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re: It's insane that Republicans can not appeal to Hispanics

Posted on 11/27/17 at 1:27 pm to
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
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Posted on 11/27/17 at 1:27 pm to
You would think if anyone would be anti big intrusive government it would be those leaving Mexico and Central America.

Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 11/27/17 at 1:32 pm to
Because handouts always trump values with immigrant voters, especially Latino, we have been over this ad nauseum, they want big government and handouts, they could care less about their other values.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 11/27/17 at 1:40 pm to
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want big government and handouts
it's all they know. they don't always see a cause and effect relationship between these policies and the poverty they flee. the democrat platform is so far right of what they're used to...the idea of voting for the party that doesn't want government run healthcare or free college or wants smaller safety nets...that's radical from their perspective

they're not stupid. they're not single issue voters and even if they were, winning votes by promising to not apply federal law is dangerous not to mention the sleaziest way imaginable of winning votes
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 11/27/17 at 1:40 pm to
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Because handouts always trump values with immigrant voters, especially Latino, we have been over this ad nauseum, they want big government and handouts, they could care less about their other values


And as you inferred yesterday, IQ is inversely correlated with melanin levels.

...OP, this and the millions like him are why the Republican Party is going to struggle with Latino voters for the foreseeable future.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 11/27/17 at 1:44 pm to
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You would think if anyone would be anti big intrusive government it would be those leaving Mexico and Central America.
that's if they see the correlation, but regardless Hillary's platform is way less onerous compared to what they're used to and being poor here is better than being poor there.

if you want to appeal to Hispanics that means basically being for subsidized healthcare (at a minimum) and large expansive social welfare programs...then these assholes like john Kasich say they can't vote for trump because he's not really a republican
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 11/27/17 at 1:46 pm to
Your OP is filled with so much tripe, bullshite and stupidity I don't even know where to start.....

1. I could write a dissertation on ow wrong you are

2. after getting our arse handed to us in two general elections Trump completely blew up the system and won doing exactly the opposite of everything you just posted.

3. There have been numerous studies done, and Latinos always vote for handouts over any "conservative" values whatever they may be.

4. If I wanted to plant a poison pill to guarantee the GOP would never win another national election it would basically be structured around catering to Hispanics.
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 11/27/17 at 1:48 pm to
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You would think if anyone would be anti big intrusive government it would be those leaving California


see how that works, Colorado is blue from liberals fleeing California
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 11/27/17 at 1:57 pm to
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And as you inferred yesterday, IQ is inversely correlated with melanin levels. ...OP, this and the millions like him are why the Republican Party is going to struggle with Latino voters for the foreseeable future.


That's your stupidity if that's what you drew from my posts, I believe one of my firsts posts after your flame was stating that certain Asian groups have the highest genetic IQ, but you're a science denier so we won't have much of a conversation.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 11/27/17 at 1:57 pm to
it's a valid analogy. people don't always see policy they vote for as contributing to the outcomes they flee.

in the case of liberals leaving California...it's that they NEVER see progressive policy as a contributing factor let alone the largest factor. the property value is such that they can't have the lifestyle to match their self styled aristocratic delusions of grandeur. part of that is they don't want to live among Hispanics, Asians or blacks
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
21750 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 2:07 pm to
I think the only thing tying Hispanics to the democrats is the whole Immigration thing. They're roughly conservative about a lot of shite.

Just my hot take.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
53753 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 2:14 pm to
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I think the only thing tying Hispanics to the democrats is the whole Immigration thing. They're roughly conservative about a lot of shite.

Just my hot take.


Well illegal immigrants aren't supposed to vote so how are they tied to the democrat party?

THEY WILL ALWAYS VOTE FOR BIGGER GOVERNMENT ND FREE STUFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 2:27 pm to
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Alt-Right are people who actively believe in racial superiority.


That doesn’t equal believing that Hispanics cant have “conservative” values.

Also wtf does the quoted statement mean? You don’t “actively believe” in general IQ differences between the races? You don’t think East Asians have a higher mean IQ than Europeans?
It’s either factually true or it’s not.

quote:

You may be Alt-Light

Nope, nor am I alt right. I’m a white guy with white kids and I want them to have a bright future not filled with racial strife.
I want our communities to be like they were when they were 95% white.
Now tell me how that’s evil.
Posted by Strannix
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Member since Dec 2012
53753 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 2:34 pm to
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You don’t “actively believe” in general IQ differences between the races? You don’t think East Asians have a higher mean IQ than Europeans? It’s either factually true or it’s not.


They are 100% science deniers, it is taboo to recognize this and to extrapolate that mean IQ and inherited genetic traits could also explain why some societies/civilizations have different outcomes.

While it is perfectly acceptable to proclaim other inherited genetic traits can make groups much better athletes, long distance runners, sprinters, NBA players etc.

It is taboo to recognize that other inherited genetic traits could make some better at rocket science, empire building, engineering, patriarchal society etc.

These are evolutionary outcomes from hundreds of thousands of years.
This post was edited on 11/27/17 at 2:35 pm
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 2:54 pm to
OPs answer to lower and middle class white people watching their communities and futures fall apart is to import a ton of Mexicans and Central Americans who will very naturally being their culture with them and make our communities more alien than they’ve already become.

It’s no answer at all. Why can everyone else advocate for their own communities but white people can’t?
I’m not hoping for racial separation. I’m saying you don’t have any answers to peoples very real concerns. You belittle them and dehumanize them for having the same natural human concerns people of other races have.
This post was edited on 11/27/17 at 2:57 pm
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
48737 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 2:59 pm to
Antes de predicarnos, tu mismo estas aprendidendo espanol?
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 3:12 pm to
I had a friendly Mexican acquaintance do two things in the same conversation:

-Accuse Trump voters of dumb racism
-tell me that we would all be speaking Spanish soon

He was serious and didn’t realize the second point was controversial.

Nice guy. Enemy of my children.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 3:14 pm to
Hispanics aren't a monolith. Republicans appeal to quite a lot of Hispanics.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105332 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 3:19 pm to
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Republicans also need to realize that this country isn't getting any whiter and start appealing directly to Hispanics. Marco Rubio was a good start on that


Other Hispanics aren't real fond of Cubans.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 3:21 pm to
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Republicans appeal to quite a lot of Hispanics.
republicans appeal to the Hispanics who believe (and rightfully so IMO) that the policies of their old country created all of the problems that made them want to leave in the first place.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
53753 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 3:32 pm to
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You belittle them and dehumanize them for having the same natural human concerns people of other races have.


Precisely, it is perfectly acceptable for all other races to have block voting, racial political groups, racial pride, etc. etc. but any mention of this from whites it met with...............HITLER!!!!!
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