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re: It's about to go down in Qatar?
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:55 am to rt3
Posted on 6/5/17 at 12:55 am to rt3
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can someone please give a Complete Idiots Guide to the Middle East version of what's going on with Qatar?
Who: Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates
What: Announced that they are cutting all ties with Qatar, to include closing air space and sea ports.
Why: They believe Qatar accepts terrorism; they disapprove of Qatar's connection to Iran and other destabilizing forces in the region (Saudi Arabia cited Qatar’s support of “terrorist groups aiming to destabilize the region,” including the Muslim Brotherhood, Islamic State and al-Qaeda. It accused Qatar of supporting “Iranian-backed terrorist groups” operating in the kingdom’s eastern province as well as Bahrain)
Side note: It isn't a coincidence that this move comes weeks after Trump’s visit to the ME and his speech asking Muslim nations to actively fight global terrorism. These countries are very clearly trying to get in the U.S.'s good graces. Everything I've read says they are sending a message to the rest of the ME/Muslim leaders that they cannot allow the support of terrorism in their countries.
This comment by Forbes is probably spot on:
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Some pundits speculated late Sunday night on Twitter that war might be on the horizon. This is just fear mongering. Qatar cannot fight a war with Saudi Arabia because it lacks the military personnel or the equipment to take on a regional power, let alone to cross the desert. Nor will Qatar join with Iran to fight its Gulf neighbors, because there is no benefit for Qatar to become a proxy state like Yemen or Syria. Most likely, Qatar will express self-righteous anger but find a way to comply with its neighbors’ requirements in several months so that relations can be restored eventually
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 3:07 am to crazy4lsu
And I note your point. However, Qatar proposed a joint pipeline through SA, not through Iran. It was Iranian backed Syria that said "no", not KSA.
I think the relationship between KSA and Qatar is complex; perhaps the joint pipeline was a way for KSA to try and pull them back into the fold from the Iranian orbit? Now that it has failed, Qatar has to turn elsewhere (Iran) to partner, and this is basically a big loss for the KSA.
This is all just speculation on motives though.
I think the relationship between KSA and Qatar is complex; perhaps the joint pipeline was a way for KSA to try and pull them back into the fold from the Iranian orbit? Now that it has failed, Qatar has to turn elsewhere (Iran) to partner, and this is basically a big loss for the KSA.
This is all just speculation on motives though.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 3:52 am to rds dc
From my friend in Saudi:
Saudi Arabia has joined Bahrain in severing all ties with the State of Qatar in the latest developments of Doha’s widening rift with its Gulf neighbors, a statement from Saudi Press Agency has confirmed.
Following news from Bahrain, the decision on Monday followed with news that Saudi Arabia has closed all of its borders with the country, including the land border it shares with Qatar.
Qatari citizens were given 14 days to leave Saudi Arabia following the severing of ties.
It comes as no surprise that Saudi Arabia, along with Bahrain, have decided to sever all ties with the State of Qatar, given Doha’s policies in supporting terrorist groups be it in Yemen or in Syria,”
Saudi Arabia has joined Bahrain in severing all ties with the State of Qatar in the latest developments of Doha’s widening rift with its Gulf neighbors, a statement from Saudi Press Agency has confirmed.
Following news from Bahrain, the decision on Monday followed with news that Saudi Arabia has closed all of its borders with the country, including the land border it shares with Qatar.
Qatari citizens were given 14 days to leave Saudi Arabia following the severing of ties.
It comes as no surprise that Saudi Arabia, along with Bahrain, have decided to sever all ties with the State of Qatar, given Doha’s policies in supporting terrorist groups be it in Yemen or in Syria,”
Posted on 6/5/17 at 5:15 am to cave canem
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While I have read quite a few woefully ignorant statements made by fools, you sir have risen to the top in that category.
It's true. Do you think any "religion" whose founder married a 6 year old and screwed her when she was 9 could actually be legit?
Posted on 6/5/17 at 5:47 am to mmcgrath
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That's what I thought. Does Trump know that? Did he know that a couple of weeks ago?
You missed the subtlety..."technically" meant we are more aligned with them militarily...
As far as diplomacy...
Posted on 6/5/17 at 5:49 am to Flashback
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t's true. Do you think any "religion" whose founder married a 6 year old and screwed her when she was 9 could actually be legit?
I think Islam is one of the three Abrahamic religions and worship the same "God" as the Jews and Christians.
Calling them devil worshipers is woefully ignorant on his part as well as yours.
Do you also believe all the ages given in the Old Testament? Because Rebecca was 3 years old when she marries Issac and they consummated it at 3 years and one day, and Mary but 12 when she wed Joseph.
Waiting on the incoming mental gymnastics or will you just run away and hide?
Posted on 6/5/17 at 5:51 am to idlewatcher
You mean a country can close its boarders and tell a certain nationality to leave? unthinkable!
Posted on 6/5/17 at 6:34 am to rds dc
Every ME country supports & funds terrorism......everydamnoneofthem
Posted on 6/5/17 at 6:45 am to DownHome
Our son is there now, spoke with him last night. Said things will likely be getting expensive, called the matter interesting and seemed real fine.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 6:45 am to rds dc
Sword dance having some impact
Posted on 6/5/17 at 6:51 am to wfallstiger
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Our son is there now, spoke with him last night.
Who is he working for?
I travel back and forth between Saudi and Qatar pretty often and this is going to make things a bit interesting, my guess is Dammam or Bahrain to Doha is going to be difficult.
This is all going to blow over pretty soon though
Posted on 6/5/17 at 6:53 am to cave canem
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Who is he working for?
See my post above...probably Uncle Sam
Posted on 6/5/17 at 6:56 am to rds dc
Seems kinda of hypocritical by Saudi and UAE as they are involved with the Safilist and Wahhabism movements.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 6:59 am to rds dc
Instead of full scale war why don't we just bomb their source of water? Can't fight if you're too thirsty
Posted on 6/5/17 at 6:59 am to Jorts R Us
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Care to share any stories? Would love to hear.
It's hot and the Qataris don't like us
Now the work force which is all the foreigners from other parts of Asia and Eastern European are cool.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 6:59 am to mmcgrath
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quote: Technically, Qatar is a "closer" ally to us than Saudi... That's what I thought. Does Trump know that? Did he know that a couple of weeks ago?
So what? Maybe Trump doesn't want to be allies with Qatar, is that okay?
Posted on 6/5/17 at 7:08 am to StraightCashHomey21
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the Qataris don't like us
I have found the opposite to be true, the Qataris I have met are the coolest dudes in the GCC, not that that says a lot.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 7:14 am to StraightCashHomey21
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It's hot and the Qataris don't like us
They stole the World Cup from us. Yeah it's soccer and most won't care, but they still stole it with bribes. frick em.
Posted on 6/5/17 at 7:33 am to cave canem
Ehhh most the population isn't even Qatari
Most the Qataris are entitled rich from oil pricks
Most the Qataris are entitled rich from oil pricks
Posted on 6/5/17 at 7:49 am to rds dc
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UAE, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Bahrain Cut Diplomatic Ties With Qatar
There’s a history needed for context here. But first, here’s the latest developments in order of their occurrence.
6:00am Bahrain’s Foreign Affairs Ministry issued a statement early Monday saying it would withdraw its diplomatic mission from the Qatari capital of Doha within 48 hours and that all Qatari diplomats should leave Bahrain within the same period.
The ministry’s statement said Qatari citizens needed to leave Bahrain within two weeks and that air and sea traffic between the two countries would be halted. It wasn’t immediately clear how that would affect Qatar Airways, one of the region’s major long-haul carriers.
Bahrain blamed Qatar’s “media incitement, support for armed terrorist activities and funding linked to Iranian groups to carry out sabotage and spreading chaos in Bahrain” for its decision.
7:00am Saudi Arabia says it is cutting diplomatic ties to Qatar and it has pulled all Qatari troops from the ongoing war in Yemen.
Saudi Arabia made the announcement via its state-run Saudi Press Agency early Monday. It appeared to be timed in concert with an earlier announcement by Bahrain similarly cutting ties.
8:00am The United Arab Emirates and Egypt have cut diplomatic ties to Qatar. The two countries have joined Saudi Arabia and Bahrain in cutting ties to Qatar amid a growing Arab diplomatic dispute with the small, gas-rich nation.
Both the UAE and Egypt made the announcement on their state-run news agencies within minutes of each other.
Qatar has been a source of historic extremist and terrorist related problems for the Gulf Security Council and aforementioned Gulf States.
Here’s some historic background for possible context on the latest developments:
*Qatar was the intermediary used by President Obama for covert arms and monetary transfers by the Obama CIA and Obama/Clinton State Department respectively.
*Qatar was also the chosen home for detainees when President Obama released the GITMO terrorists.
*Most importantly however, is the relationship between Qatar and the Muslim Brotherhood. When Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi named the Muslim Brotherhood a terror organization, their leadership fled to safe harbor in Qatar.
Egyptian President Fattah al-Sisi then began a months and years long assembly of Gulf Arab states (Gulf Security Council) to boycott Qatar, cut all diplomatic ties and isolate them until they renounced terrorism and stopped providing safe harbor for extremists.
Eventually Qatar acquiesced and sent the Muslim Brotherhood to Turkey.
President al-Sisi then asked Interpol to watch carefully and notify him if the Muslim Brotherhood were ever allowed to leave Turkey. [Yeah, al-Sisi is a badass like that] Recep Erdogan gave the Brotherhood safe harbor in Turkey.
*2013 President al-Sisi charged and prosecuted the leadership of the Muslim Brotherhood. They fled to Qatar. (link)
*2014 President al-Sisi followed the MB to Qatar and initiated sanctions against Qatar until they stopped financing and harboring terror. (link)
*2015 Unrelenting President al-Sisi then formed a coalition against Qatar including the UAE and Saudi Arabia who withdrew their ambassadors and isolated Qatar in the region. (link) (link)
The extremist attack in Egypt last week was notably carried out by sympathizers of the Muslim Brotherhood. The attack was launched from Libya. Libyan Dawn, ISIS, al-Qaeda in Arabian Peninsular (AQAP) and al-Qaeda North Africa (AQIM) are all affiliates of the Muslim Brotherhood political extremist construct. All of these entities have found financial resources structured, and/or organized, from inside Qatar.
Against the backdrop of President Trump calling for a joint coalition against extremist and violent Islamic terrorism it doesn’t come as a surprise to see the Gulf Arab States once again confronting Qatar in 2017.
The difference is this time (2017) they have a U.S. President willing to support the global effort to hunt down and eliminate the extremists.
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