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Posted on 10/23/14 at 9:37 am to TK421
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Or, it could be that he understood that putting one man on a pedestal creates a bigger martyr when he is eventually captured.
Good point as well.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 9:40 am to Y.A. Tittle
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I wasn't even meaning to give you a hard time. I just honestly can't fathom what Gore would have done in the face of 9/11.
I can make a guess, I bet we still have the patriot act, and invaded afghanastan. But no iraq.
i can't really say any detail beyond that. But iraq was a masterbatorial fantasy by neo-cons, and that wouldn't have happened with Gore. Of course, liberman is a neo-con but he wasn't selected to be gore's adviser like cheney was.
I remember thinking post 9/11, I am so glad we have cheney there as I really detested bush (grew up in texass)...boy was I wrong.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 9:49 am to WeeWee
So was yours.
And thanks.
You know, if you close your mind to opposing views, you remain stagnant. If you are so easily shaken by any information or argument, it might just be because you have so little confidence in your own position.
Just sayin.
Btw, my friend introduced me to a couple of other gays working for Bush when he ran for governor that first time. They're the ones who told me Bush was really a cool guy and not at all the right winger he portrays. They said Bush knew they were gay and was fine with it (which wasn't so much the norm back then). I had mentioned this in another thread a few weeks back.
And thanks.
You know, if you close your mind to opposing views, you remain stagnant. If you are so easily shaken by any information or argument, it might just be because you have so little confidence in your own position.
Just sayin.
Btw, my friend introduced me to a couple of other gays working for Bush when he ran for governor that first time. They're the ones who told me Bush was really a cool guy and not at all the right winger he portrays. They said Bush knew they were gay and was fine with it (which wasn't so much the norm back then). I had mentioned this in another thread a few weeks back.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 10:09 am to Vegas Bengal
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Btw, my friend introduced me to a couple of other gays working for Bush when he ran for governor that first time. They're the ones who told me Bush was really a cool guy and not at all the right winger he portrays. They said Bush knew they were gay and was fine with it (which wasn't so much the norm back then). I had mentioned this in another thread a few weeks back.
i had a boss from austin that was partying hard the same time bush was in the 70s. He said bush was like a vacuum cleaner with coke, and was a notorious dbag cokehead.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 10:16 am to Hawkeye95
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i had a boss from austin that was partying hard the same time bush was in the 70s. He said bush was like a vacuum cleaner with coke, and was a notorious dbag cokehead.
My friend was the offspring of older parents (they both had been divorced) so although his father and Bush senior were classmates at Yale, he (and I) are from the generation after W. So he didn't pal around with W and I don't have any first hand drug stories on W.
But I'll tell you, when I was at LSU, I'd run in to coke every once in a while. Pot was the drug of choice. But when I moved to Austin, it was everywhere. My friends I met there were astonished that I had never tried it. Coke was a given in Austin at parties. This was early 90's.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 10:24 am to WeeWee
Oh yeah. I get them all confused and time flies.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 10:27 am to Hawkeye95
quote:A boss from Austin who was an admitted cokehead mitigating his stupidity by claiming "W" did it too. Hmmmm. Let's see.
i had a boss from austin that was partying hard the same time bush was in the 70s. He said bush was like a vacuum cleaner with coke
Did your boss's """association""" with "W" occur before, or after, Bush's stent at Harvard grad school?
Posted on 10/23/14 at 10:29 am to NC_Tigah
I'm gonna go ahead and say it. This is definitely my worst troll thread.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 10:34 am to NC_Tigah
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Did your boss's """association""" with "W" occur before, or after, Bush's stent at Harvard grad school?
I didn't ask. he didn't claim to really know bush just that they ran in some overlapping party circles in the 70s. austin wasn't that big back then, so its not hard to imagine that if you were partying hard, you would run into each other.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 10:37 am to NC_Tigah
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Did your boss's """association""" with "W" occur before, or after, Bush's stent at Harvard grad school?
Bush graduated from Yale in 68 and Harvard in 75. He was in the guard between then. Do you know of any job he had from the time he graduated in 68 to the 80s? I mean other than his guard duties and two years in Harvard.
Any job? In business?
ETA: Actually I should limit that to the 10 years after he graduated from Yale. Once he met Laura in '77 he stopped drinking and settled down.
This post was edited on 10/23/14 at 10:41 am
Posted on 10/23/14 at 10:37 am to Vegas Bengal
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But I'll tell you, when I was at LSU, I'd run in to coke every once in a while. Pot was the drug of choice. But when I moved to Austin, it was everywhere. My friends I met there were astonished that I had never tried it. Coke was a given in Austin at parties. This was early 90's.
I rarely ever saw coke in college, and really didn't see coke until I hit the professional scene. But in college, all i really did was pot and LSD.
I see people doing it occasionally now but I am sorta out of the partying scene. Legal weed will do that to you, I honestly don't know anyone I could buy illegal drugs off of in person. Its one of the best reasons to legalize IMHO, keep you away from the more dangerous drugs.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 10:39 am to Vegas Bengal
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Do you know of any job he had from the time he graduated in 68 to the 80s? I mean other than his guard duties and two years in Harvard.
He was a landman in Midland, Texas. He wasn't too successful.
ETA, Of course that's probably a more legitimate real "job" than anything Obama ever had before he was elected to the same office. (Am I doing this right?)
This post was edited on 10/23/14 at 10:42 am
Posted on 10/23/14 at 10:41 am to Hawkeye95
quote:It was ~300K.
austin wasn't that big back then
quote:No shite.
he didn't claim to really know bush
Posted on 10/23/14 at 10:42 am to Vegas Bengal
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ETA: Actually I should limit that to the 10 years after he graduated from Yale. Once he met Laura in '77 he stopped drinking and settled down.
per wikipedia, he didn't stop drinking until 1986
Posted on 10/23/14 at 10:42 am to Hawkeye95
quote:That sounds about right.
he didn't stop drinking until 1986
Posted on 10/23/14 at 10:52 am to NC_Tigah
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he didn't stop drinking until 1986
That sounds about right.
so its really not that unreasonable that if bush was partying from 1968 to 1986, and had a close tie to Austin.....and my former boss lived in austin during that time, and austin was 300k people that they would run into each other at a party, club, after hours, etc? Seems very plausible to me.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 10:53 am to Y.A. Tittle
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He was a landman in Midland, Texas. He wasn't too successful.
Yeah I just changed my post. In 77 he was in Midland and met Laura and got married. He turned his personal life around then but all of his oil businesses went bust.
There was a back story, rumors surrounding that who guard deal in 2000. What Democrats and the press were digging for was proof of what was being said in Texas. The rumors were that his dad sent him to Alabama in 72 to get away from Texas and the crowd he ran with (lots of drugs). He was in the Texas National Guard. So he goes to Alabama. He was suspended from flying in the Alabama guard 72 for failing to take a physical. He couldn't take it because the risk of what the blood test might show. And he didn't show up for duty there.
The creator of Doonesbury offered a reward of $10,000.00 for anyone who had proof that Bush actually showed up for duty. He had no takers. Not one picture of of Bush of in the Bama guard with friends or just hanging out. Nothing.
So looking back at the whole guard story mess in 2000, the issue really wasn't about his service but what was behind what all happened.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:07 am to Vegas Bengal
quote:You mean you don't remember Arbusto?
Bush graduated from Yale in 68 and Harvard in 75. He was in the guard between then. Do you know of any job he had from the time he graduated in 68 to the 80s? I mean other than his guard duties and two years in Harvard.
Any job? In business?
It was Junior's first company, back in 1979-80, and partially funded by James Baath, a businees representative of the Bin Laden's.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:11 am to TX Tiger
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and partially funded by James Baath, a businees representative of the Bin Laden's.
*Let me help out REG861 here*
Do you think he knows where Barbara Olson is?
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