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re: It pains me to say this, but it's coming and its coming fast

Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:50 am to
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:50 am to
Let's dispel once and for all with this fiction that OP isn't melting like a snowflake falling into water.
Posted by Themole
Palatka Florida
Member since Feb 2013
5557 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:51 am to
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For more than 100 years now. Why would you be so naive as to believe Trump would change that?


Then who and what are your solutions? You have been asked time and time again, by many on this board, for your solutions. Yet you continue to tap dance on the head of a needle offering nothing but "do your research" fess up or STFU. I've grown tired of your surliness.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34918 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:57 am to
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It's time to move our separate ways before the division leads to chaos.


Does everybody get a 'fair share' of the nukes and cutting edge war tech like the laser that will be deployed by the Navy in 2 years?

Can the newly-formed *California* State invite Iran to be a State 'partner'?

The division of the geographical US into balkanized 'nation states' is so problematic for either side, it is a virtual non-starter. It will have to be the Abraham Lincoln version...war...to keep the Union.

One thing is for sure; all things are measured by the basic strengths and weaknesses of their particular characteristics. LSU may have the co-best D in the land...but if our Q-back can't throw on the run with the option to run...we lose on one big play. We did.

While our Nation has many strengths...is has manifold and serious problems with large virtually dysfunctional populations...as such relates to the macro-economy. And that matters. A chain is only as strong as it weakest link.

I suspect there will be some sort of Natural process toward the re-imposition of character standards and strengths. Such monumental changes are proven cyclical in the historical record; read "The Fourth Turning" if you doubt it. Not rocket science. There are particular groups of individuals that are highly problematic and flat our injurious toward civil society. They will have to go, by whatever means. Mother Nature ultimately runs this show...not Donald Trump Traditionalists or the Progressive Movement.
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
13165 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:59 am to
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Christ. You really think it's that simple?


No, I never said it would be simple/easy and no rational individual would believe that. But it might well be a better alternative if it avoids a violent civil war.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27875 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:59 am to
Great. Now Alex Jones has to write an entirely new intro to his next show.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:04 pm to
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Our nation is deeply divided between diametrically opposed ideologies.
Disagree completely. In fact, the opposite is closer to the truth. Our nation is united in its basic ideology. The path to those ideologies may be different, but the foundation is the same.
Granted the establishment would have you believe there is a great divide, but it's more propaganda for the purpose of divide and conquer, rather than truth.
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The only long term recourse I see for reconciliation is a geopolitical division.
That would work very well if your intentions are for committing suicide.
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Trump should withhold federal funding to sanctuary cities/states like California
He should, but he won't, because he's as establishment as Hillary.
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and support peaceful succession. It's time to move our separate ways before the division leads to chaos.
We've been living in chaos for more than 100 years in this country. Sadly the sheople won't recognize it unless it's broadcast on MSM as BREAKING NEWS.

No, it's time for America to grow up, unite, and fight against the fascists who have taken over this country for the last 100-plus years.

I'm not holding my breath.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27875 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:05 pm to
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I would not be surprised to see the Dems first call for Trump to resign, then when hat doesn't work try to impeach him, and if that doesn't work they stage a coup "for the good of the country". Once they do that, the Socialist dream will finally have come true. Our constitutional republic will be dead.

Please expand on this coup.
Posted by Themole
Palatka Florida
Member since Feb 2013
5557 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:09 pm to
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No one wants to admit what I'm suggesting is a real possibility but the accumulation of everything since Trump was elected indicate it's inevitable.


I admit it and share your same concerns.
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
5840 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:10 pm to
Most of the states that pay highest taxes to our federal government are the states you want to withhold funds.

That would bankrupt the country.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:11 pm to
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For more than 100 years now. Why would you be so naive as to believe Trump would change that?



Then who and what are your solutions? You have been asked time and time again, by many on this board, for your solutions.
And I have answered them ad nauseam. Remember, I've been on this board for 13 years. Over that time I have provided extensive opinions and suggestions. Pardon me if I don't feel like writing a dissertation with every post.
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I've grown tired of your surliness.
I'll lose sleep over it.
Posted by Themole
Palatka Florida
Member since Feb 2013
5557 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:31 pm to
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And I have answered them ad nauseam. Remember, I've been on this board for 13 years. Over that time I have provided extensive opinions and suggestions. Pardon me if I don't feel like writing a dissertation with every post.

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I've grown tired of your surliness.

I'll lose sleep over it.



I've been here 4 years. I ain't going through 13 years of your post to discover your espousings.

If it is important to you and the preservation of the U.S. Constitution, you should be driving those points home (with references) every opportunity you have.

Sleep or nay, you've offered no meat.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:31 pm to
Could you have been more vague?
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:01 pm to
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If it is important to you and the preservation of the U.S. Constitution, you should be driving those points home (with references) every opportunity you have.
I did that for the first 10 years or so and got tired of banging my head against the wall.

Now I just point and laugh at the incredible naivety and ignorance. It's much more entertaining.

I have found that the very few people who post to this board with any knowledge of what's going on in the world, always get shouted down by the masses who just come here to parrot their latest talking point from the MSM.

In other words, if it's fake news you crave, you've come to the right place.
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