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re: It must be backfiring
Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:37 pm to MullenBoys
Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:37 pm to MullenBoys
Liberals love to argue from the point of moral high ground and claim that the war between the left and the right is a war of good vs. evil
We are getting more ammo daily to show them that the reverse is actually true and we need to start arguing from this stance. Stop playing nice with these assholes. The regressive left is dangerous, plain and simple.
We are getting more ammo daily to show them that the reverse is actually true and we need to start arguing from this stance. Stop playing nice with these assholes. The regressive left is dangerous, plain and simple.
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Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:41 pm to geauxtigahs87
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Liberals love to argue from the point of moral high ground and claim that the war between the left and the right is a war of good vs. evil
As do republicans.
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We are getting more ammo daily to show them that the reverse is actually true and we need to start arguing from this stance
So the solution is to do what the liberals do? The exact thing you were just bitching about?
This post was edited on 2/20/17 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:53 pm to MullenBoys
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crime has become a big issue with the people who live or have business dealings there...
...and play computer war games.
Kind of a narrow swath there, not exactly a representative sample.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:53 pm to Tiger Tracker
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As do republicans.
If you honestly believe republicans do it just as much as dems, I don't know what to tell you. The left is always the first to scream "why do you hate blacks, gays, muslims, etc" rather than actually debate the facts and you know it.
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So the solution is to do what the liberals do?
The solution is to point out their insane hypocrisy of being so "tolerant" when a 5 second youtube search will show you hundreds of videos of them being anything but.
(This is the part where you say "trump supporters can be violent, too." )
Which I'll use my initial argument. If you seriously believe republicans and pro-trump supporters have been just as violent as the regressive left in the past year, I honestly don't know what to tell you.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 4:17 pm to JawjaTigah
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Please link. I am old. I don't remember rioting against Obama, violence, killing police and pointless obstruction being what now appears to be a daily or weekly basis or of the scale being presented our nation by this current resistance "movement".
Perhaps it's because Obama didn't consistently give false information to the public such as:
The rollout and ensuing chaos of his immigration ban;
42% unemployment rate;
Swedish Violence;
Bowling Green Massacre;
Incessant whining with no proof of illegal voting;
The lying about his electoral college victory margin;
his bullshite tactic of calling everything that is critical of Trump "fake news."
And much, much, more...
Posted on 2/20/17 at 4:22 pm to geauxtigahs87
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If you honestly believe republicans do it just as much as dems, I don't know what to tell you. The left is always the first to scream "why do you hate blacks, gays, muslims, etc" rather than actually debate the facts and you know it.
Hmm. Sounds like you're the one who won't or can't debate the facts.....and you know it.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 4:43 pm to geauxtigahs87
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Which I'll use my initial argument. If you seriously believe republicans and pro-trump supporters have been just as violent as the regressive left in the past year, I honestly don't know what to tell you.
So now we're excusing violence on either side so long as you don't do it more than the other side? My whole point to this was that both sides have shitty people and the only way to truly MAGA is to have real/calm/informative conversations about policy. Not by using fear and manipulation to control the people.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 5:04 pm to Tiger Tracker
quote:There is a HUGE difference between a peaceful protest and a riot. Let me see those riots the Right participated in after the election of President Obama.
Let's not pretend there wasn't a section of the right that protested Obama
The Left has only one goal, power. And they will use any means necessary to obtain it.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 5:31 pm to Tiger Tracker
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So now we're excusing violence on either side so long as you don't do it more than the other side?
Not what I'm saying at all.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 5:46 pm to Wolfhound45
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Let me see those riots the Right participated in after the election of President Obama.
If you consider the following examples shown in these links as "peaceful" I'm not sure you could have an actual conversation.
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Let's not forget the things some Trump supporters did even after he won... LINK
In fact, Trump himself wanted people protesting after Obama was elected
I'm sure you will come back with some makeshift logic on how dems are worse and this is just MSM blowing one or two bad apples out of proportion, but the fact is if you can't admit to yourself that certain sections of both parties are stubborn, hate filled, whiny bitches you are doing yourself and your country a disservice.
There is no republican=right way or democrat=right way. This country should be fluid and ever changing, and laws/ideals should be something constantly examined and valued, on both sides.
It's detrimental to the progress of our country to say one way is always right and one side is always right. These things (party in power) tend to be cyclical and if everyone throws a fit and some even promote hate and violence because of it, it sets our country back...bigly.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 5:49 pm to geauxtigahs87
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Not what I'm saying at all.
Please see my response to wolfhound for plenty of examples of the same shite by trump supporters this year and when obama was elected along with trump himself calling for people to march on Washington after the 2012 election.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 5:56 pm to Tiger Tracker
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do think that questioning certain EOs is acceptable and good for keeping govt in check.
Not what's happening
Posted on 2/20/17 at 6:00 pm to Tiger Tracker
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Here allow me to demonstrate the right's melt after obama was elected
Those signs say Obamacare. That wasn't right after he was elected. It was right after he blew up health care.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 6:00 pm to MullenBoys
Of course they misread the nation. They lost the whole damn rust belt which cost them the election, and instead of talking economic policy and jobs, they're doubling down on tranny rights and calling everyone racist.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 6:04 pm to Tiger Tracker
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Here allow me to demonstrate the right's melt after obama was elected:
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Well, two of the pictures you linked were protests to Obamacare and not his election. As one of the posters stated, protesting legislation that you do not agree with is American; however, protesting because your lost is unAmerican.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 6:18 pm to Terry the Tiger
So that makes all the others invalid? All the assaults ok? I mean seriously not one of you can admit that i proved you wrong. There were not only protests and violence trump himself helped spur them. So tell me again how its only the left and the right are all peaceful mature people. 
These misdirects are getting fricking hilarious. Just an FYI, Obamacare was on the table during the 2008 election. The fact one picture out of over 10 examples had TWO people obamacare signs doesn't prove shite excpet they were protesting something which wasn't even fleshed out in congress or by the president. At that point Obama and congress hadn't even crafted the bill. Why? Because he was just elected. So protesting something you don't even know what it says is also fricking stupid.
These misdirects are getting fricking hilarious. Just an FYI, Obamacare was on the table during the 2008 election. The fact one picture out of over 10 examples had TWO people obamacare signs doesn't prove shite excpet they were protesting something which wasn't even fleshed out in congress or by the president. At that point Obama and congress hadn't even crafted the bill. Why? Because he was just elected. So protesting something you don't even know what it says is also fricking stupid.
This post was edited on 2/20/17 at 6:21 pm
Posted on 2/20/17 at 6:24 pm to member12
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Those signs say Obamacare. That wasn't right after he was elected. It was right after he blew up health care.
Except you are wrong about that too. Look at the bottom of the sign it says coming soon. People were protesting his election not after he blew up health care. Nice try at deflecting though. Why don't you all just admit Republicans were just as angry and violent not only after Obama won but even after TRUMP won.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 6:28 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Not what's happening
Then tell me what is happening. No one is out there protesting the executive order which was shot down in court and forced Trump to re write it because of its constitutionaly questionable content?
Then once Trump didn't get his way he attacked our legal system, but hey that doesn't matter right? I am sure no one would've cared if Obama started calling judges "so called judges" and tweeting "see you in court!" because he didn't get his way right?
Posted on 2/20/17 at 6:40 pm to Tiger Tracker
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one is out there protesting the executive order which was shot down in court and forced Trump to re write it because of its constitutionaly questionable content?
Id bet 90% couldn't tell you what an executive order is. These bitches were protesting the day after inauguration.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 6:42 pm to MullenBoys
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But they misread the rest of the nation. They thought everyone thinks like they do.
This is directly related to states rights, which California and New York destroyed by consistently voting liberal Democrat.
Things that are political in nature, such as abortion, have been foisted upon us by Democrats through incorporation of the Bill of Rights and the bludgeon of the equal protection clause and Commerce Clause (I'm looking at you, William O. Douglas).
Abortion was legal in New York before it was legal around the country. New York state also spawned no-fault divorce.
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