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re: Israel and the Gaza Strip
Posted on 5/11/21 at 1:49 pm to Jjdoc
Posted on 5/11/21 at 1:49 pm to Jjdoc
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A lot! From the dawn of time, land has been granted by military men and politicians.
Literally FROM THE BEGINNING!
Ignorance.
List them. Tell us all what sovereign nations were given 3 or 4 choices on where they could settle and form a country. Should be easy right?
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Posted on 5/11/21 at 1:49 pm to RebelExpress38
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Shouldn’t even have to come to this.
Agree, it's just sand.
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Sad thing is that Trump had us closer to actual peace than every before because he took a different approach. The Dems and the media have too much pride to admit that so they would rather go back to the old failed policies than to admit Trump was right.
I doubt anyone can settle a war that's been fought for a thousand years.
They don't like each other and the U.S. hasn't helped that fact.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 1:50 pm to FATBOY TIGER
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I doubt anyone can settle a war that's been fought for a thousand years.
This "war" hasn't been fought for a thousand years.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 1:51 pm to ronricks
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List them. Tell us all what sovereign nations were given 3 or 4 choices on where they could settle and form a country. Should be easy right?
Pretty much every sovereign state, kingdom, principality, duchy, etc. that existed in Europe between the fall of Rome and the end of World War Two originated in a room around a table with a map.
As far as specific examples, let’s use every country that started off as a British or French colony.
This post was edited on 5/11/21 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 5/11/21 at 1:51 pm to ronricks
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What logic? The logic that I don't worship and kowtow to Israel?
Ignorance again. An Ally is an ally, but history has proven you wrong.
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You people look like fools worshiping that Welfare State. No American owes Israel a thing. Period.
Wow at the hate. 
Posted on 5/11/21 at 1:52 pm to ronricks
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Problem is Israel can't win without our help.
bullshite.
All Israel needs is for us to stay out of the way. Or more correctly for the Biden administration to not help their enemies with intel or weapons.
Read up on the 6 day war.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 1:56 pm to Indefatigable
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Pretty much every sovereign state, kingdom, principality, duchy, etc. that existed in Europe between the fall of Rome and the end of World War Two originated in a room around a table with a map.
You are evading the question. What sovereign nations were given a choice (with multiple locations) of where they wanted to settle by a boardroom full of military men and politicians. You should be able to list them.
This post was edited on 5/11/21 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 5/11/21 at 1:58 pm to ronricks
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What sovereign nations were given a choice of where they wanted to settle by a boardroom full of military men and politicians.
Probably none, including Israel, considering that Israel only became a state after it was constituted in its current location. Existing sovereign states don't need choices because they already exist.
As far as people being given an option of where to settle, see my previous response.
This post was edited on 5/11/21 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 5/11/21 at 1:58 pm to Jjdoc
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An Ally is an ally
An ally that sells our technology to China, and openly brags about it? That's great. FWIW, I don't blame their leaders for looking out for their own nation. I just wish ours would do the same.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 1:59 pm to Mo Jeaux
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This "war" hasn't been fought for a thousand years.
You don't believe this is over religion?
Please tell me, you don't think this is over some sand or control of the sand.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 1:59 pm to Jjdoc
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An Ally is an ally,
its a very one sided friendship for sure. I am sure it is no coincidence that the people who occupy Israel have been kicked all over the globe throughout time. They couldn't play nice with anyone. When it is that many times it can't be a coincidence can it?
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:00 pm to alphaandomega
I really should stay out of this because, like most of you here, I was a big fan of "The State of Israel".
My thoughts have evolved just over these past several years. I will share something from another time and place and it may not be very popular, but here goes.
How the Jews treat Christians in Israel - Its Serious
My thoughts have evolved just over these past several years. I will share something from another time and place and it may not be very popular, but here goes.
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Some 10 years ago when utube hadn't been re-taken over, there was a delightful vid of the you know who type spraying the arab quater with their waste. Wonderful your neighbour spraying your house with their effluent. Peace.
Love them Christian folk, turn the other cheek. They love that.
How the Jews treat Christians in Israel - Its Serious
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:00 pm to alphaandomega
NTY.
This guy (ronricks) is a moron and Very uninformed.
As a former contractor that spent over 6 years working with many Middle East or North African countries’ military’s as well as Israeli military I can tell you with 100% confidence that if we, the USA, didn’t handcuff Israel or give intelligence and tip off their enemies that Israel would wipe their arse with the ME. And it wouldn’t be much of a contest. It’s mostly handcuff them because we don’t like to look like meanies whereas the Israelites don’t care. Most Israelis have grown up knowing people who have either died, been injured, or related to someone who has so they know how dangerous this game called life is. They have zero issues getting rid of the enemies if allowed to.
NOW, they also have ME countries as allies who’d rather see the Jews succeed than their enemies with similar religious beliefs. Those are facts.
This guy (ronricks) is a moron and Very uninformed.
As a former contractor that spent over 6 years working with many Middle East or North African countries’ military’s as well as Israeli military I can tell you with 100% confidence that if we, the USA, didn’t handcuff Israel or give intelligence and tip off their enemies that Israel would wipe their arse with the ME. And it wouldn’t be much of a contest. It’s mostly handcuff them because we don’t like to look like meanies whereas the Israelites don’t care. Most Israelis have grown up knowing people who have either died, been injured, or related to someone who has so they know how dangerous this game called life is. They have zero issues getting rid of the enemies if allowed to.
NOW, they also have ME countries as allies who’d rather see the Jews succeed than their enemies with similar religious beliefs. Those are facts.
This post was edited on 5/11/21 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:03 pm to FATBOY TIGER
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You don't believe this is over religion?
Over religion? I mean, the religious component is certainly a highly visible identifier. Even if it was "over religion", that still would not mean it was a 1000 year old war, unless you're assuming that Israel has picked up the mantle of the Byzantine Empire and the Crusader States.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:03 pm to Indefatigable
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Probably none, including Israel, considering that Israel only became a state after it was constituted in its current location. Existing sovereign states don't need choices because they already exist.
Correct Israel did not exist until 1948. I am not talking about 'existing' sovereign states I am talking about places that became a sovereign state by being given multiple choices at the behest of military men and politicians. What War did the people who would settle in Israel win in 1945?
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As far as people being given an option of where to settle, see my previous response
OK. List them.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:06 pm to crewdepoo
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Why are you defending one side over the other
Hamas launched over 400 rockets into Israel. Nuff said!
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:07 pm to Sweep Da Leg
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100% confidence that if we, the USA, didn’t handcuff Israel or give intelligence and tip off their enemies that Israel would wipe their arse with the ME. And it wouldn’t be much of a contest.
Israel can't do anything without its Daddy (America) holding their hand. We do all the dirty work in that region for them. The blood that has been spilled in that region is overwhelmingly American. And for what?
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:08 pm to ronricks
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I am sure it is no coincidence that the people who occupy Israel have been kicked all over the globe throughout time. They couldn't play nice with anyone.
AH! I see what we are dealing with now. How is that Hitler alter you got doing?
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:10 pm to Sweep Da Leg
Yep. In the 6 day war, it was our CIA that tipped off the Arab states of a strike.
And Israel still beat that arse.
And Israel still beat that arse.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:10 pm to Stidham8
I don’t care about Palestine, but I hate how we are Israel’s bitch. We give them $3 billion each year and do their bidding in the Middle Eastern wars. Let them deal with their own problems. Let them go attack Iran and Syria. Why are always backing them and submitting to their every will? We should not let anyone dictate us, but our politicians slobber all over Israel’s boots.
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