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Posted on 9/7/21 at 11:22 am to Stonehog
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That settles it, now y’all can stop making 200 threads a day about it.
You have the right to skip any and all vaccine/covid threads, just as everyone else should have the right to take or not to take the vaccine.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 11:22 am to Korkstand
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Korkstand
Inability to digest the science around your narrative falling apart I see
Posted on 9/7/21 at 11:27 am to Strannix
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Inability to digest the science around your narrative falling apart I see
The "narrative" is not "falling apart". You and many others here just don't seem to grasp or care to grasp the very basics of data analysis.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 11:28 am to Strannix
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Inability to digest the science around your narrative falling apart I see
What tf are you talking about? Are more people in the hospital vaccinated or unvaccinated?
Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:13 pm to hubertcumberdale
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hubertcumberdale
How do you function in life with both wrists permanently limp?
Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:22 pm to Jjdoc
For this to tell you much, you need to know the percentages of vaxed/unvaxed in each age cohort. The old are much more likely to die. Need to know what percentage of the old are vaccinated. Then compare outcomes within age cohorts.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:33 pm to N.O. via West-Cal
quote:I did this for ages 60+ deaths earlier in the thread. Someone also linked a good site that breaks the Israel data down into narrower age ranges, and it shows roughly 90% efficacy for the vaccines at preventing hospitalization. Nobody here wants to hear that, though.
For this to tell you much, you need to know the percentages of vaxed/unvaxed in each age cohort. The old are much more likely to die. Need to know what percentage of the old are vaccinated. Then compare outcomes within age cohorts.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:36 pm to Korkstand
Yet Israel is fully committed to boosters, even talking about dose #4
Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:42 pm to Big Jim Slade
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The deaths were probably people with co-morbidities who would’ve died from the virus regardless of vaccine status.
But this flies directly in the face of what we have been led to believe is the reason to take the vaccine in the first place!
Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:49 pm to LSUfan20005
quote:Many vaccines work better after multiple doses. Most kids get 4 doses of polio vaccine before it approaches 99+% efficacy. Multiple doses of hep, mmr, etc. Many of them first dose is within the first year and then later doses after age 4 or so. This is extremely common with vaccines, baffling that people are concerned about it all of a sudden.
Yet Israel is fully committed to boosters, even talking about dose #4
Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:54 pm to Korkstand
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baffling that people are concerned about it all of a sudden.
That's part of the issue...the sudden nature of the vaccine. It has not been time tested like some of the others plus the vaccines are known to have issues with reactions as well as using elements that are new to the scene and don't have much of a track record. I am, by the same token, baffled as to why the pushy pro-vaxx type can't grasp why folks just don't want to rush to get something shot into their body that is in essence still experimental.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 1:24 pm to 93and99
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How do you function in life with both wrists permanently limp?
Damn bro, sick burn, how did you come up with something so equally hilarious and original?
Posted on 9/7/21 at 4:00 pm to hubertcumberdale
Bro?
Along with "dude", sign of stupidity.
Along with "dude", sign of stupidity.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 4:37 pm to Korkstand
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and it shows roughly 90% efficacy for the vaccines at preventing hospitalization.
Personally.. I think the medical community, cdc and politicians are not labeling this "vaccine" correctly.
Given the efficacy you just articulated and the fact that even if the "vaccine" does prevent you from being tested covid positive you can still "spread" it.. I would label this as some form of pre-treatment therapy (just pulling a random term for purpose of example..) rather than a vaccine.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 4:45 pm to doubleb
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How many Israelis were vaccinated and how many were not?
If 95% of the population was vaccinated, I could easily see more dying that were vaccinated because we know the vaccination is only 90% effective at most.
Yep. And there is no data on what else was going on like the number who were immune system compromised for things like AIDS, chemotherapy cancer treatment, diabetes and other serious comorbidities.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 6:05 pm to klrstix
quote:Many of the vaccines that we use require multiple doses, often times two a few months apart followed by a third booster years later. Some we give four doses. These vaccines work just like most of the others that we have. These new antivaxers are pulling all kinds of shite out of their asses.
Personally.. I think the medical community, cdc and politicians are not labeling this "vaccine" correctly.
Given the efficacy you just articulated and the fact that even if the "vaccine" does prevent you from being tested covid positive you can still "spread" it.. I would label this as some form of pre-treatment therapy (just pulling a random term for purpose of example..) rather than a vaccine.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 2:17 pm to Korkstand
"The "narrative" is not "falling apart". You and many others here just don't seem to grasp or care to grasp the very basics of data analysis."
Proceeds to manipulate the entirety of the scientific data by including uninfected, not sick people, not dying or getting critically infected by a disease they don't have...
"Per 100k".
Just had to make an account and week old necro this because the hypocritical irony was just too much to not call out.
Proceeds to manipulate the entirety of the scientific data by including uninfected, not sick people, not dying or getting critically infected by a disease they don't have...
"Per 100k".
Just had to make an account and week old necro this because the hypocritical irony was just too much to not call out.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 2:25 pm to FlySaint
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It looks like the biggest takeaway is 60+ is nearly exclusively the one's dying. I’d like to see the 80+ numbers; I’d bet they’re the vast majority of the totals. And likely “with” vs “from”.
That's what has been known since the Diamond Princess became the perfect petri dish in its quarantine. It is astounding that so many dem govs thought putting covid patients in nursing homes was a "civil rights" issue.
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