re: Isn’t repealing net neutrality just going back to how it was for decades?

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1 its not a utility

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Would you be a proponent for the complete privatization and deregulation of water and power?

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dont pay your water bill - no water

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I don't know what this is supposed to mean

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Millennials parents will have to pay more now for their service

Thats the only argument I have heard why this is bad

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That's because you have chosen to ignore the arguments and remain voluntarily ignorant.

ISPs will provide a service which you have to pay for but its not elemental for survival .

I live in a rural part of a very popular vacation and tourism area, we have 1 ISP to choose from, 1. Now this past month the county had a vote and citizens repealed an old law from 2000 which enabled towns and counties here to enter into contracts with ISPs to provide service. So the town is choosing my provider. Now with the law repealed and these same counties and towns can now invest in different types of providers and tech we now already have a large initiative for competition here. Its about time.

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Would you be ok with the water company deciding how much pressure your house gets depending on the brand of shower head or toilet you use?

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I would buy the shower head that gave the most pressure if they told me the choices

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Would you be ok with the electric/gas companies deciding how hot your stove can get or how long your oven can stay on depending on the brand of oven you have? Or the type of food that's in it?

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Are they doing this? I would jut eat out or grill if that was the case

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DO you see how the argument "well the free market will sort it out and someone will just build and install an entire new water company and pipes accross the country" is asinine?

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No i dont i dont even know what you are talking about to be honest. All of what you wrote seems asinine

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That's because you have chosen to ignore the arguments

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Explain the arguemnts. Thata all i have heard that and netflix will slow down or i have to pay 5 more a mnth

Which i dont care about

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I would buy the shower head that gave the most pressure if they told me the choices

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Of course you would. So what you need to understand is that the shower head market is now distorted and controlled. Rather than compete for customers on price and quality, shower head vendors are at the mercy of whatever the water company wants to happen.

Now apply that thought to EVERY INDUSTRY THAT OPERATES ON THE INTERNET, and maybe you will start to see the problem.

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I would buy the shower head that gave the most pressure if they told me the choices

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It's not based off the viability of that shower head. It's based off who's selling it.

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Explain the arguemnts.

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Here's one example of what could happen:

Imagine if websites and internet based services could pay individual ISPs to work better and faster across their network than other services and websites.

So netflix could pay your local ISP to work better or faster than Hulu or Amazon video. This is all done behind the scenes without input from or consideration of the end user. So the free market is not deciding which services and websites thrive, but the ISPs are deciding before the market ever gets a chance. In this scenario, the big time corporations have a massive leg up to kill up and coming competition which cripples the market and innovation.

That's the best case scenario.

The Doomsday scenario is Netflix pays and contracts with local ISPs to be the sole streaming content provider, and thus competition is killed completely and there is no need for them to improve their service or content because it's all that's offered.

The check on this for some ignorant people is "a market competition of ISPs" but this isnt even feasible right now. Most of the country has 1 legitimate ISP or possibly 2. There is not legitimate ISP competition, Net Neutrality has nothing to do with that limited ISP competition, and i dont know what the solultion is. Although new fiber companies would be a good thing, I'd rather if Cox would just upgrade their decrepit infrastructure in my area.

One possibility that I've studied, though its feasibility is strongly debated, is to end the free broadcasted television antenna system. Open up all of that spectrum for bid and allow new massive wireless ISP companies to bring competition to the market.


I do know one thing: Giving content control to your ISP is a terrible thing.

I have no problem at all with ISPs charging users more for non-content based services.

Cox in my area offers different priced speed tiers. I'd have no problem with this as it is not a content based problem.

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On that note about competiton: I can't wait for ShortyRob to show up and claim there are hundreds of ISPs available and his area has 5 of them and quality of ISP makes no differnece at all as long as there is competition and his analogy is that a small 5 horsepower single person scooter is legitimate competition to a minivan or public bus system because at their basic level they all get people places and can operate as full substitutes of one another.

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Breesus

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Exactly.