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re: ISIS gunmen take 20 hostages in Sydney Cafe

Posted on 12/14/14 at 6:34 pm to
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
85987 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 6:34 pm to
quote:

Fact is, our gun laws have made mass killings easier for whack jobs...not harder.



I think you mean our absence of gun laws. Freedom is the starting point.
Posted by asurob1
On the edge of the galaxy
Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 6:34 pm to
quote:

Once again, your anti-gun bias is coming through so hard that you really didn't think about this sentence before posting it.


as many gun incidents in this country involving multiple deaths...it just kind of rolls off my fingers.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84453 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 6:35 pm to
Oh looky Rob found a few, so tell me, the Aussies gave up their weapons, why is this happening in Sydney? They should be safe and sound right?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84453 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 6:35 pm to
quote:

no but keep believing that...because the NRA tells you it's true.
Should have worked Faux News in their as well.
Posted by asurob1
On the edge of the galaxy
Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 6:39 pm to
quote:

Oh looky Rob found a few, so tell me, the Aussies gave up their weapons, why is this happening in Sydney? They should be safe and sound right?


A few?

It takes a quick google search to find more then a few.

And there will be more soon enough.


Posted by asurob1
On the edge of the galaxy
Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 6:40 pm to


ARM THE CHILDREN....


...only then can we be safe!
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84453 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 6:40 pm to
Why
aren't
they
safe
in
this
situation?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84453 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 6:41 pm to
Sad Rob really sad.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112547 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 6:42 pm to
But...I thought Australia had very strict gun control laws?
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84488 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 6:43 pm to
I'm not really sure why either side is trying to make this an issue about gun control.

We have hostage situations and mass shootings in this country and we have lax gun control laws relative to the rest of the industrialized world.

What is the implication here? That if Australia allowed private carry, it just so happens that a person carrying would be in this exact cafe at this exact time and would have diffused the situation? That rarely happens here and we allow concealed carry.

I think both sides are reaching to politicize it about gun control here.
This post was edited on 12/14/14 at 6:46 pm
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84453 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 6:46 pm to
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What is the implication here? That if Australia allowed private carry, it just so happens that a person carrying would be in this exact cafe at this exact time and would have diffused the situation?
It could, however there is only one outcome, we know law abiding citizens in this situation were not carrying.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84488 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 6:48 pm to
I mean I understand the link trying to be made, but I just think it is tenuous. I know I'm a dirty liberal here on this board, but not even I would advocate total banishment of guns. I can't speak for that other dirty liberal, asurob1, but I don't think I've ever heard him argue for total banishment either, but I could be wrong on that.
This post was edited on 12/14/14 at 6:49 pm
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27576 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 6:50 pm to
quote:

Armed people protect themselves, are you suggesting they should give up that right?


All of these comments assume the CHL carrier would happen to be john Rambo. Some old veteran who could stare down a guy with I assume a bigger weapon and who has the drop on you? Or multiple people. This would require a perfect situation.

Can it happen? Yep. But chances are slim.

This thread has deteriorated into a gun debate. Not an Islamist a-hole discussion. Which just shows me how we can't agree on anything from top to bottom.

These assholes need to be taken out. Those hostages are dead if they try to treat it like any other hostage incident. They have no intention of being talked down.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84453 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 6:50 pm to
hard telling half the time he is trolling.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84488 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 6:52 pm to
I hope a police sniper gets a good shot off.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
21991 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 6:53 pm to
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Our "guns" can't even keep the whack jobs from murdering people en mass in colleges, movie theaters or elementary schools.
you're an idiot and i wont even say why but there is something similar with all those locations and thanks to tree hugging assholes you elect.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
21991 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 6:53 pm to
send in the SAS and be done with this
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84453 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 6:54 pm to
Why
r
u
replying
to
me
I
didn't
make
that
comment.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84453 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 6:54 pm to
quote:

I hope a police sniper gets a good shot off.
Wait a white Aussie caps a minority? Riots!







I keed I keed!
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 6:55 pm to
quote:

Our "guns" can't even keep the whack jobs from murdering people en mass in colleges, movie theaters or elementary schools.


They were all murdered in "gun free zones"!
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