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re: Is This the Next Trayvon? Ralph Yarl
Posted on 4/17/23 at 12:46 pm to VolcanicTiger
Posted on 4/17/23 at 12:46 pm to VolcanicTiger
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Also, his story completely adds up - the house he went to was on a street with a similar name and one block over (something like 115th Street vs. 115th Terrace). His story checks out 100%.
Those are separate issues. The posturing on the kid’s background and plans is for the civil suits to follow.
And I’m unsure if we know the narrative to be corroborated. The police are playing this pretty close to the vest at this point.
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Posted on 4/17/23 at 12:47 pm to Upperdecker
quote:Well luckily the standard is whether or not a reasonable person in that position would do the same thing. Granted, there is no such honest, rational thinking in the court of public opinion.
Your version of legitimate fear is different from someone else’s. The shooter may have had what he felt is legitimate fear. But that doesn’t mean it’ll pass for everyone else’s standards
This post was edited on 4/17/23 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 4/17/23 at 12:50 pm to NC_Tigah
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How in hell could "we safely say he wasn't looking in the backyard or anything like that"?
He knocked at the front door and was shot through the front door. I doubt he would have snooped around and THEN returned back to wait at the front door
Posted on 4/17/23 at 12:50 pm to the808bass
quote:It should be easy enough to figure out where his little brother was at to see if it was an easy mistake, as reported. The one thing I find harder to believe is that they had the same house number, but it also could've been one of those "first brick house on the left" situations too. I'm giving both parties a pass for now until proven otherwise. It just seems like a tragic mistake, like the Japanese trick-or-treater in BR in 1992. Sometimes shite happens.
And I’m unsure if we know the narrative to be corroborated. The police are playing this pretty close to the vest at this point.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 12:51 pm to VolcanicTiger
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Well luckily the standard is whether or not a reasonable person in that position would do the same thing.
I think most will agree this was not a reasonable person’s standard
Posted on 4/17/23 at 12:52 pm to Upperdecker
quote:I could see him going into the back yard to see if his brother was there - lots of plausible scenarios for that, but I have no idea that it happened. When you say he was shot through the front door, do you mean through the closed door or the open door?
He knocked at the front door and was shot through the front door. I doubt he would have snooped around and THEN returned back to wait at the front door
Posted on 4/17/23 at 12:52 pm to the808bass
If this kid really got shot for ringing a doorbell I think shooter should catch charges. But there’s a 99% chance this isn’t the whole story.
Also frick these people for trying to act like Michael Brown was some scholar. A disproven narrative that continues to be regurgitated
Also frick these people for trying to act like Michael Brown was some scholar. A disproven narrative that continues to be regurgitated
Posted on 4/17/23 at 12:53 pm to Upperdecker
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I think most will agree this was not a reasonable person’s standard
Why do you think you know what happened?
The police questioned the homeowner and not only let him go, they let him leave the area. Perhaps you should call them and give them some tips.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 12:54 pm to Upperdecker
quote:We don't have enough to base that on, but with a stranger at your door the odds are in your favor. If he reasonably feared for his safety, it was justified. Wish it never happened, and probably so does the shooter. I don't find the desire to just kill black teens to be a real thing among white people. Among some black people, yes, but no one else.
I think most will agree this was not a reasonable person’s standard
Posted on 4/17/23 at 12:54 pm to VolcanicTiger
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When you say he was shot through the front door, do you mean through the closed door or the open door?
Double door. One glass pane door, one solid door. The shooter opened the solid door and shot him through the glass pane door, then opened the glass pane door and shot him again
Posted on 4/17/23 at 12:54 pm to the808bass
There are unarmed black kids killed everyday in a democrat city. Crickets...
Posted on 4/17/23 at 12:54 pm to jcaz
quote:They know setting the narrative early will have permanent impact on the morons and sheep.
Also frick these people for trying to act like Michael Brown was some scholar. A disproven narrative that continues to be regurgitated
Posted on 4/17/23 at 12:54 pm to Upperdecker
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He knocked at the front door
I thought he rang the bell.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 12:56 pm to Upperdecker
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One glass pane door, one solid door. The shooter opened the solid door and shot him through the glass pane door, then opened the glass pane door and shot him again
Oh. Thank god. You’ve located an eyewitness.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 12:57 pm to Upperdecker
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I think most will agree this was not a reasonable person’s standard
I live out in the country. Sometimes my packages get delivered to the wrong address. I call them up and just get them to resend a new one. Im not about to go around door to door out here looking for my package and Im white. I dont feel like getting shot because im snooping on peoples porches.
This post was edited on 4/17/23 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 4/17/23 at 1:00 pm to the808bass
Quija board sez the shooter is an 85 year old white guy, surely asleep at the late night hour of 10:30 pm. Frightened by the persistent knocking, and would just as soon as shot an fbi swat team
Posted on 4/17/23 at 1:02 pm to dgnx6
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I dont feel like getting shot because im snooping on peoples porches.
Neither do I, but if those people did shoot you for snooping on their porches they’d go to prison for murder. The law doesn’t protect us from the initial crime, it only protects us from subsequent crimes (or it should, the decarceration movement is stopping that)
Posted on 4/17/23 at 1:04 pm to the808bass
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Oh. Thank god. You’ve located an eyewitness.
This is what’s being reported. All of it should have clear, tangible, recoverable evidence, so I don’t think it would be falsely reported
Posted on 4/17/23 at 1:06 pm to VolcanicTiger
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It should be easy enough to figure out where his little brother was at to see if it was an easy mistake, as reported.
Once you remember that these civil rights lawyers use script writers, it all starts to make more sense.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 1:06 pm to Upperdecker
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This is what’s being reported.
Based on what? A statement from the police? No.
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