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Is the lack of testing a bad thing??
Posted on 3/13/20 at 8:22 am
Posted on 3/13/20 at 8:22 am
Will it keep a run on hospitals and Emergency Rooms down from hypochondriacs (already 200,000 cases per year in the US) and others with the flu? That way only the seriously ill would seek out a test.
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Posted on 3/13/20 at 8:25 am to Engineer22
I think it is a double edged sword.
If there were an abundance of tests, you could get one and know if you were safe to be around an elderly relative or not.
But, they are already saying this can overwhelm the healthcare system, so a ton of folks rushing in to get tested for no reason would also do that to a degree I would think, as it would take away attention from those in need of medical attention.
If there were an abundance of tests, you could get one and know if you were safe to be around an elderly relative or not.
But, they are already saying this can overwhelm the healthcare system, so a ton of folks rushing in to get tested for no reason would also do that to a degree I would think, as it would take away attention from those in need of medical attention.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 8:26 am to Engineer22
Anytime the public thinks an item of value is limited that usually causes demand to increase not decrease.
Without a test if someone has the flu they are still going to rush off to a doctor because they "want it looked at"
Without a test if someone has the flu they are still going to rush off to a doctor because they "want it looked at"
Posted on 3/13/20 at 8:37 am to SHOtime Tiger
True, but if 80% and upward of the cases are mild is not knowing such a bad thing.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 8:39 am to Engineer22
We need to know so that we can evaluate how responsive measures are working. Without testing we're largely flying blind as to what the response should be.
Further, with temperatures increasing in parts of the country, we want testing to evaluate the impacts.
Further, with temperatures increasing in parts of the country, we want testing to evaluate the impacts.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 8:41 am to Engineer22
“Accurate testing is critical to stopping an outbreak: When one person gets a confirmed diagnosis, they can be put in isolation where they won’t spread the disease further. Then their contacts can be identified and put into quarantine — so that they don’t spread the virus if they’ve become infected, too. That’s particularly important for a virus like this one, which seems able to spread before people show symptoms, or when their symptoms are mild.” - LINK
“The study suggests it was crucial to move fast with the interventions China used to contain the outbreak. If testing, isolation and travel bans were brought in one, two or three weeks later than they were, the number of cases could have rocketed three, seven and 18-fold respectively.” - LINK
“The study suggests it was crucial to move fast with the interventions China used to contain the outbreak. If testing, isolation and travel bans were brought in one, two or three weeks later than they were, the number of cases could have rocketed three, seven and 18-fold respectively.” - LINK
Posted on 3/13/20 at 8:42 am to Pettifogger
From the areas where testing has occurred (South Korea mostly), we still don't have a R0 or really good idea of what the mortality rate is. It may take a year before we have stats that are worth anything.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 8:43 am to Engineer22
It’s a very bad thing.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 8:44 am to Engineer22
The main 2 things that are not being handled correctly are:
1. Absurd lack of US Testing. This is how we determine who to treat and quarantine.
2. Early stage dismissals and downplaying of the potential threat.
The admin has done some right things, but the above 2 issues were / are irresponsible.
1. Absurd lack of US Testing. This is how we determine who to treat and quarantine.
2. Early stage dismissals and downplaying of the potential threat.
The admin has done some right things, but the above 2 issues were / are irresponsible.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 8:45 am to Engineer22
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From the areas where testing has occurred (South Korea mostly), we still don't have a R0 or really good idea of what the mortality rate is. It may take a year before we have stats that are worth anything.
No, but we can evaluate the macro impacts, like the case rates dropping in SK. I think our goal should be to avoid further shutdown measures that would hurt the economy, but I just don't think we have any idea how we're collectively doing until widespread testing increases.
That official in Ohio estimated 100k cases in Ohio - which to all of us seems crazy. But it wouldn't shock me if we have 100k in the country. We just can't do much to evaluate any claim/assessment as it currently stands.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 8:47 am to Pettifogger
This thing will be a big deal or not. Testing won’t matter.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 8:48 am to Pettifogger
How much of our current Flu stats are from actual tests and not just stats being extrapolated? Does anyone know the answer to this?
Posted on 3/13/20 at 8:50 am to Geauxst Writer
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2. Early stage dismissals and downplaying of the potential threat.
The admin has done some right things,
Also bad PR for the admin. Regardless of how the outcome of this is, I guarantee the dems will have commercials of Trump claiming there were only 15 cases and they would go to 0.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 8:53 am to Engineer22
It might initially slow the fake scare. It could increase the real spread of the virus as patients who acquired it not from travel or close association with someone exposed could be identified and isolated more quickly.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 8:55 am to Engineer22
The botched testing is the biggest fedgov frickup since 9/11. More people will die than should have because we didn’t have proper testing capacity from day 1.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 8:55 am to the808bass
Of course there was the dumbass that tested positive, then proceeded to go to his daughter's dance. If we were testing more we would have to probably go more Draconian like China which could open a whole other can of worms with lawsuits.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 8:57 am to Jon Ham
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Accurate testing is critical to stopping an outbreak
quote:
The study suggests it was crucial to move fast with the interventions China used to contain the outbreak
We going to start killing people in the streets?
Posted on 3/13/20 at 9:02 am to Jon Ham
Baloney. Doctors don't treat the name of the disease. It's a virus. They treat the symptoms. If you have influenza or Wuhan virus, the treatment is going to be largely the same. As the CDC said with regards to H1N1: "However, most people with flu symptoms do not need a test for pandemic H1N1 flu specifically, because the test results usually do not affect the recommended course of treatment." Both are contagious, so you should be home for treatment anyway.
If you're asymptomatic, there's no reason to get a test unless you're paranoid.
We've gone full retard with this. Never go full retard.
If you're asymptomatic, there's no reason to get a test unless you're paranoid.
We've gone full retard with this. Never go full retard.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 9:07 am to Milosh
We don't test every flu victim. People just accept it move on. This should be no different, but media and society has gotten scared of everything.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 9:07 am to Engineer22
no test = trump.
no science = trump
it will go away as if a miracle.
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