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re: Is the commodification of everything a predictable outcome of capitalism?

Posted on 9/9/25 at 4:21 pm to
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
15949 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 4:21 pm to
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Maybe I’ll teach you how to use google? What a smug way to broadcast your incompetence and ignorance. Shocked that someone is claiming to not know this while simultaneously attempting to condescend.


while you ran away from this:

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How can “crime” be decreasing and prison populations be “ballooning” at the same time?


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Mandatory minimum sentences, 3 strikes policies, elimination and reduction of parole, etc. etc.


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So you saying it’s working. Right?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
41656 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 4:22 pm to
What are your thoughts about Iryna Zarutska's murder?

How will you defend her murderer?
Posted by Rico Manning
NOLA’s Secret Uncle
Member since Sep 2025
222 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 4:26 pm to
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Socialism has failed every time it was tried.


Do you know what national socialism is?
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
140989 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 4:30 pm to
Are they being imprisoned because they are black?

Or has their case been adjudicated?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292962 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 4:31 pm to
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Socialism has failed every time it was tried.


Do you know what national socialism is?


It failed.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
2741 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 4:32 pm to
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Do you know what national socialism is


Enough to know it fails
Posted by Rico Manning
NOLA’s Secret Uncle
Member since Sep 2025
222 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 4:36 pm to
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Enough to know it fails


>Reversed hyper inflation and debt into vibrant economy
>millions of homes built for new families (25% of loan repaid with each child born)

Ultimately isms are loaded beyond belief, anyway.
Do you have an Orsini bank or not is a more relevant question.
Capitalism and socialism are rooted from the same source point, the Vatican, and carried out to infect in different ways through the orders and societies and influence associated.
This post was edited on 9/9/25 at 4:41 pm
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
2741 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 4:43 pm to
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Capitalism and socialism are rooted from the same source point, the Vatican and carried out to infect in different ways through the orders and societies and influence associated


Put the pot down man. Like now.

Basics behind capitalism existed long before the vatican.

Capitalism = you own your own means of production.

Free markets were capitalism, even though the name may not habe been coined yet. Humans have been freely buying and selling goods and services for thousands of years. That, in effect is true capitalism. What you try to claim is capitalism is corporatism. Good job though.
Posted by Rico Manning
NOLA’s Secret Uncle
Member since Sep 2025
222 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 4:48 pm to
I guess you never heard of sharing.

I think that was invented long ago.

My answer is intentionally kindiegarden in response to your simplifications of very loaded concepts, of which I prescribe to neither.

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Free markets were capitalism, even though the name may not habe been coined yet. Humans have been freely buying and selling goods and services for thousands of years. That, in effect is true capitalism. What you try to claim is capitalism is corporatism. Good job though


Does capitalism exist today, anywhere?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
58472 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 5:28 pm to
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So you saying it’s working. Right?


No. Increasing prison populations even as crime rates decreased does not prove that incarceration decreases crime. It proves that inmates are commodities to be exploited.

If mass incarceration deterred crime, we would see low crime rates with a stable prison population, not this:

Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
15949 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 5:45 pm to
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No. Increasing prison populations even as crime rates decreased does not prove that incarceration decreases crime. It proves that inmates are commodities to be exploited.


You are one bleeding heart idiot. And a gullible one at that.

The people with the same ideology as you get people killed every…. Single….. day. Every day. Just like the girl in Charlotte. Every single day. Blood. And you could give a shite less.

You folks need minority death for some unknown reason. The killing fields in Jackson, MS, St Louis, Memphis, Chicago, Baltimore, etc are needed by you folks. It’s unknown why… but you need it. And will fight for it.

And when asked why you folks say, “We can’t trust the government to police the streets! Now! Look at this graff I googled from the government!! Tha statishsticks!!! Look!! Da line!! Da government line!! It go dat way!!!”


This post was edited on 9/9/25 at 5:47 pm
Posted by GetMeOutOfHere
Member since Aug 2018
998 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 5:55 pm to
Notwithstanding that commodification isn't a real word, it sounds like you're asking people to do work for you for free.
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
3835 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 5:58 pm to
Short answer: yes.
We have become so used to making money off of everything, we forget that this was not always the case in the past. A good example is Jonas Salk, creator of the polio vaccine. He could have patented the vaccine, but he wanted to make this available to the most amount of children, in the fastest way. When asked why he did not patent the vaccine, he said "could you patent the sun?" Most would say this was naive, but I can't think of a better example of someone being more concerned about the greater good, rather than the having the amount of money in his pocket.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
24860 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 6:08 pm to
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Mandatory minimum sentences, 3 strikes policies, elimination and reduction of parole, etc. etc.


Subversives peddling notions like "bad is good" while attacking the institution of two parent homes raising children.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
34584 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 6:26 pm to
Commodification of humans is the outcome of other systems.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
32190 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 6:30 pm to
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There's no way you are this dumb.


You give this psycho way too much credit. She truly is that dumb
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
58472 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:08 pm to
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re one bleeding heart idiot. And a gullible one at that.

The people with the same ideology as you get people killed every…. Single….. day. Every day. Just like the girl in Charlotte. Every single day. Blood. And you could give a shite less.

You folks need minority death for some unknown reason. The killing fields in Jackson, MS, St Louis, Memphis, Chicago, Baltimore, etc are needed by you folks. It’s unknown why… but you need it. And will fight for it.

And when asked why you folks say, “We can’t trust the government to police the streets! Now! Look at this graff I googled from the government!! Tha statishsticks!!! Look!! Da line!! Da government line!! It go dat way!!!”



Emotional drivel.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
58472 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:10 pm to
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Short answer: yes. We have become so used to making money off of everything, we forget that this was not always the case in the past. A good example is Jonas Salk, creator of the polio vaccine. He could have patented the vaccine, but he wanted to make this available to the most amount of children, in the fastest way. When asked why he did not patent the vaccine, he said "could you patent the sun?" Most would say this was naive, but I can't think of a better example of someone being more concerned about the greater good, rather than the having the amount of money in his pocket.


Thanks for the thoughtful reply.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
58472 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:16 pm to
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The equipment, skills and tools used for manufacturing metal license plates arent exclusive to license plates. There's no way you are this dumb.


I noticed you called me dumb without providing any information other than your own seemingly baseless opinion.

Can you be specific? Which other products does making license plates prepare individuals to manufacture? Which equipment overlaps?
This post was edited on 9/9/25 at 8:17 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62044 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:17 pm to
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Should any facet of society be exempt from commodification (ie healthcare, education, etc)?


No
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