re: Is the alt right gaining traction because libertarianism is failing?

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But they are not the only reasons that people support liberty. There is a segment of the population of self-described libertarians—described here as brutalists—who find all the above rather boring, broad, and excessively humanitarian. To them, what’s impressive about liberty is that it allows people to assert their individual preferences, to form homogeneous tribes, to work out their biases in action, to ostracize people based on “politically incorrect” standards, to hate to their heart’s content so long as no violence is used as a means, to shout down people based on their demographics or political opinions, to be openly racist and sexist, to exclude and isolate and be generally malcontented with modernity, and to reject civil standards of values and etiquette in favor of antisocial norms.

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God, Jeff Tucker is SUCH a pussy. shite like this makes me "literally shake".

Count me in the "Brutalism Crew.

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isn't part of the libertarian credo since they wished governments didn't exist at all


That's an anarchist

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Libertarianism is anarchist. The libertarian party is another thing entirely. It is a boring and ineffective thing if we are being honest. Probably because they don't embrace the roots of their guiding philosophy, as described in many works by the late Murray Rothbard.

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I agree that true libertarian philosophy is pretty much anarchist, I think when most people think of libertarianism today though they think of the libertarian party which is socially liberal and economically conservative which isn't anything close to an anarchist.

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Yeah agreed. Completely different animals.

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What is alt-right to you? You mean the racists?

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Projection. If u think it's a coincidence liberals coined "alt right" , which sounds like 'all white', I've got a bridge to sell you over Antarctica.

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and they've force-fed things like female leads in the last TWO star wars movies for no reason whatsoever other than to not have a white male lead

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Do you actually believe this?

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Libertarians have utterly failed at spreading their message, and the evidence suggests that the browner your skin color, the less attracted you are to libertarian ideals.

Lots of libertarians took a "if you can't win em over, kick them out" position recently it appears. They moved from their from the micro (economic, property rights, markets, etc) to the meta (western culture vs oriential collectivism)

Remember, trump won self described libertarian republicans by a whopping margin in the primary, even when rand was still in the race.

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The same frickers voted for Mitt Romney ad John McCain and W and Dole and Daddy Bush and Reagan. Most of them probably voted for Jimmy Carter before Reagan made it acceptable for them to leave the democratic party. Their boy ran for Congress as a democrat about that time didn't he?? (David Duke?). There is nothing new here....these morons have been around forever....they only feel more comfortable coming out from under their rocks because they perceive Trump as a kindred spirit.

And they are wrong....and I think they know it but it fits their narrative. Trump is a New York racist....that is a totally different animal to the kind of visceral racists we know in the south and the Pacific Northwest and the type which like to read the Thunderbolt and dream of the "Turner Diairies" coming to pass. Trump's racism is like that of Archie Bunker. Its bad but it ain't race war bad...

Libertarianism can't fail cause it was never important and it never will be important. Only white guys like it and it is detrimental to the nation states of white guys so it will never achieve anything, other than the destruction of that country. It would only work in a world where there is one type of people, but then maybe that was its purpose was to help get to the nwo.