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Posted on 4/4/14 at 3:15 pm to goldennugget
bigot
Posted on 4/4/14 at 3:16 pm to goldennugget
To answer the OP.... I think it is possible. I don't care what people do in their bedrooms. And I'm fine if gheys get married. It's really none of my business.
BUT, unfortunately, there is a dedicated, and vocal, minority of activists (many aren't ghey) that want to use the issue to attack religion. We have an example that regularly posts here.
I simply cannot support that agenda. Thus, I simply can NOT lend my approval to the pro-marriage of the agenda. I flatly refuse to attack other's religion.
SO... I've become anti-ghey marriage. And that makes me sad. But until the ghey lobby demonstrates the same level of tolerance they demand for themselves--I will not support them. I'm ready. But they have a looong way to go.
BUT, unfortunately, there is a dedicated, and vocal, minority of activists (many aren't ghey) that want to use the issue to attack religion. We have an example that regularly posts here.
I simply cannot support that agenda. Thus, I simply can NOT lend my approval to the pro-marriage of the agenda. I flatly refuse to attack other's religion.
SO... I've become anti-ghey marriage. And that makes me sad. But until the ghey lobby demonstrates the same level of tolerance they demand for themselves--I will not support them. I'm ready. But they have a looong way to go.
Posted on 4/4/14 at 3:19 pm to Taxing Authority
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To answer the OP.... I think it is possible. I don't care what people do in their bedrooms. And I'm fine if gheys get married. It's really none of my business.
BUT, unfortunately, there is a dedicated, and vocal, minority of activists (many aren't ghey) that want to use the issue to attack religion. We have an example that regularly posts here.
I simply cannot support that agenda. Thus, I simply can NOT lend my approval to the pro-marriage of the agenda. I flatly refuse to attack other's religion.
SO... I've become anti-ghey marriage. And that makes me sad. But until the ghey lobby demonstrates the same level of tolerance they demand for themselves--I will not support them. I'm ready. But they have a looong way to go.
This is a patently ridiculous stance.
So you don't mind homosexuality, and you don't have a problem with gay marriage, but you still can't support it because you hold a grudge against some people who do? Is that what I'm supposed to get out of this?
Posted on 4/4/14 at 3:26 pm to DCRebel
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This is a patently ridiculous stance.
I don't think so.
The behavior of the "pro-gay" supporters is nothing short of offensive.
Posted on 4/4/14 at 3:28 pm to DCRebel
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This is a patently ridiculous stance. So you don't mind homosexuality, and you don't have a problem with gay marriage, but you still can't support it because you hold a grudge against some people who do? Is that what I'm supposed to get out of this?
Its just like rooting for a team because their fans are assholes. Dont tell me you've never done that.
Posted on 4/4/14 at 3:30 pm to asurob1
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LOL. Since the bible was okay with multiple partner marriages, where exactly is your problem with them. Since you know the bible is the all-knowing book of knowledge and stuff.
You are obviously confused as what you believe 'the bible' teaches.
Posted on 4/4/14 at 3:37 pm to Enadious
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You are obviously confused as what you believe 'the bible' teaches.
I love when atheists think they know everything there is to know about the Bible. They see a single scripture, and not understanding its context, try to use the scripture to attack Christians.
I have read through the Bible several times and taken many in depth classes and studies on the Bible and I still am learning/understanding new things every day and still getting the hang of all the context.
Posted on 4/4/14 at 3:40 pm to goldennugget
As a Christian I think it is a sin. I am also taught as a Christian that all sins are judged equally in the eyes of The Lord, and I am in no place to judge others. A mans homosexuality is no worse a sin than me taking a girl home from a bar. We are all imperfect and we all sin. The key to salvation is admitting your sin to Christ and asking forgiveness.
That said, I have no hate for gay people. I think the act is gross and would not want to watch it or partake in it but I will treat a gay man with the same respect as anyone else as long as he treats me respectfully.
I do not think the gay movement should be promoted or celebrated. We should not embrace sin. We should treat them equally under the law but we should maintain the idea that it is still morally wrong and society should reject such behavior
That said, I have no hate for gay people. I think the act is gross and would not want to watch it or partake in it but I will treat a gay man with the same respect as anyone else as long as he treats me respectfully.
I do not think the gay movement should be promoted or celebrated. We should not embrace sin. We should treat them equally under the law but we should maintain the idea that it is still morally wrong and society should reject such behavior
Posted on 4/4/14 at 3:52 pm to Hawkeye95
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basically, if you feel anxiety around gays, you secretly want the dick.
Gotta love the pop psychologists.
Posted on 4/4/14 at 3:56 pm to BigJim
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Think you stepped in it there. You against against laws that law legislate OTHER people's morality. You are quite fine with laws that impose your morality.
nope.
I think everyone should be able to get married to the consenting adult they choose as long as they are a consenting adult.
Just like I think every woman should have the choice to get an abortion.
Just like I think that laws against prostitution and drug use are stupid.
Etc etc etc.
Laws against these things are other people imposing their morality on everyone else. See a tit on tv? Who cares, it's just a tit, yet the FCC slaps a fine on the offending tit.
We have so many laws of morality on the books it is stupid.
Time to delete a few of them.
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You hold that position because you think it is immoral for someone to discriminate. However you have a double standard for morality laws, only those you agree with should have the force of law.
I think discrimination is wrong. Period. Are you trying to tell me that you are down with discrimination unless its against those who discriminate?
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You have religion confused with morality, which is understandable as they are so connected. I wager most of your political positions are based on moral suppositions. You just think they are superior because they aren't based on (your words) a "sky god."
No not really. A lot of people dive into their bible anytime these sort of topics pop up. The sad fact is the bible is hardly the ironclad source of morality and religion. There is so much incest, murder etc etc in that book it runs right against anyone who uses it to impose their morality on others.
I believe I am a good moral person. However, Christians say I'm head to hell because I spend my sundays worshiping at the alter of the NFL instead of giving my ten percent at the local church. I'm not confused at all...religious people believe they are going to heaven based on the fact that they bow down to their sky god. Whether or not they are actually moral never enters into the discussion. It's one of the more entertaining things about religion and morality.
The OP is a homophobe and a bigot. He should just own up to it. It's not really topic worthy nor is it worthy of this much discussion. He'd sleep better at night if he wasn't so concerned with what others think of him. If he truly believes in a god, then he should show up at the pearly gates taking his chances whether he gets in based on how he handles his life here on earth.
Posted on 4/4/14 at 3:56 pm to BigJim
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And why when they are writing a book you disagree with are they "white guys" but when they are being bombed by Bush they are "brown people?"
Liberals have an amazing ability to the change other people's ethnic origin to suit their rhetorical point.
Posted on 4/4/14 at 3:59 pm to deltaland
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taking a girl home from a bar
That cant be a sin?
Posted on 4/4/14 at 4:00 pm to goldennugget
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That's the difference between me and your gay-lobby friends. I don't fight fire with fire. I am not going to get all up in your face and angry and upset over your bigotry toward me and let it all out. Instead I brush it off and move forward.
Just give in to your bigotry. You are desperately trying to have it both ways with this thread. This really is a black and white issue. You either are a homophobe. Or you are not. We both know which you are.
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But come on, man. You want tolerance? You want acceptance? Look in the mirror, because your entire post, especially the opening line, is the definition of insensitive bigotry.
Oh I freely admit I have zero tolerance for those who hide behind their religion while using it as a tool for intolerance of others. Of those alleged religious people who think their beliefs give them free reign to meddle with other peoples lives.
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Work on showing tolerance toward Christians before getting your panties in a twist over how people treat gays, because your post was really insensitive and hateful toward Christians.
I own that. You call yourself a Christian, yet instead of turning the other cheek towards gays you want to come up with a way where you can be a bigot AND still get into heaven.
Doesn't work that way.
This post was edited on 4/4/14 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 4/4/14 at 4:01 pm to LSUnKaty
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What's your point?
Thankfully, murder, rape, domestic abuse, drugs, war and many other things have also never had a single direct affect on my life.
So now you are going to compare gay marriage to rape and murder.
Posted on 4/4/14 at 4:02 pm to Lg
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So you do realize you are a bigot?
shrug sure.
I'm anti-religious...this is nothing new.
Posted on 4/4/14 at 4:03 pm to Enadious
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You are obviously confused as what you believe 'the bible' teaches.
No not really
Posted on 4/4/14 at 4:04 pm to goldennugget
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I love when atheists think they know everything there is to know about the Bible. They see a single scripture, and not understanding its context, try to use the scripture to attack Christians.
I love how Christians quote chapter and verse to defend their wishy-washy points. But the second a non-Christian does the same thing, then we aren't using it "in context". Hypocrite much?
Posted on 4/4/14 at 4:05 pm to deltaland
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As a Christian I think it is a sin. I am also taught as a Christian that all sins are judged equally in the eyes of The Lord, and I am in no place to judge others. A mans homosexuality is no worse a sin than me taking a girl home from a bar. We are all imperfect and we all sin. The key to salvation is admitting your sin to Christ and asking forgiveness.
jesus Deltaland you get it. There is hope for you.
Posted on 4/4/14 at 4:05 pm to goldennugget
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I don't think you should try to impose it on kids and schools and bring it into education cirriculums. It shouldn't be promoted as normal behavior.
Now you are just showing your phobic nature with that kind of stuff and you need to be ridiculed for that stance and have bad things like a boycott of your business or a judicial decree issued for those beliefs.
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