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re: Is Bernie The Red done?
Posted on 6/20/19 at 6:33 am to OTIS2
Posted on 6/20/19 at 6:33 am to OTIS2
Commumisim believes in a total centralized government where said government owns everything. Things like private property do not exist under commusium or at least according to the Communist Manifesto.
None of this sounds like Bernie or really any of the major candidates. It's like yall just hear these terms and randomly throw them out any time a candidate talks about raising taxes or a slightly bigger government
None of this sounds like Bernie or really any of the major candidates. It's like yall just hear these terms and randomly throw them out any time a candidate talks about raising taxes or a slightly bigger government
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 6:42 am to dawgfan24348
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slightly bigger government
Whoa. Either they really fooled you, or you are trying to help mask their true agenda. Either way, I feel bad for you.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 7:31 am to LSU Patrick
Oh do tell me the true agenda. Because everything I've seen from people like Bernie are Scandinavian politics. Nothing that remotely resembles commusium.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 7:54 am to dawgfan24348
Bernie won't be the presidential nominee, you can take that to the bank!!
Then DNC, will never let Bernie be their choice, just remember it's the DNC choice, not the dumb democrat voters choice !!
Then DNC, will never let Bernie be their choice, just remember it's the DNC choice, not the dumb democrat voters choice !!
Posted on 6/20/19 at 7:56 am to DeltaDoc
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I think Kamala is going radio silent on purpose, allowing the old whities to destroy each other.
I’ve noticed for a while how she gets zero media coverage (I.e. they’re protecting her)
Posted on 6/20/19 at 7:56 am to dawgfan24348
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Nothing that remotely resembles commusium.
Communism is beyond Socialism. The question is why even head down that path?
Your move toward Socialism under today's "benign" politicians might bite you in the arse as the characters change in the future.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 7:58 am to Northwestern tiger
Bernie was openly socialistic when everyone else in the Dem party was refusing to be open about it. Now that the official position has taken a hard left towards open socialism, he’s not as novel any longer.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 7:58 am to dawgfan24348
What program do you need from Bernie? You’re getting emotional
Posted on 6/20/19 at 8:01 am to Animal
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Communism is beyond Socialism. The question is why even head down that path?
Headed down that path? It's Scandinavian politics which is a mix of capitalism and socialism.
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Your move toward Socialism
My move? Just because I understand what he's trying to accomplish doesn't mean I'm a fan of him. You know you can attempt to understand something without being a supporter
This post was edited on 6/20/19 at 8:02 am
Posted on 6/20/19 at 8:20 am to dawgfan24348
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Your move
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My move?
Didn't intend it that way....should have said "one's move."
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Headed down that path? It's Scandinavian politics which is a mix of capitalism and socialism.
There are a bunch of factors that do not align between Scandinavia and the United States. We are much more diverse and with that diversity you have differing cultures that place different levels of importance on very different things.
Family units in the US function in a very socialistic manner internally and it works because families tend to be mostly in alignment for the greater good of the unit.
The more people you add, the more cultures you add, the more opinions of what is important you add, it begins to breakdown. I realize it is counter to what is preached today but diversity is not without its own problems and they can be significant.
The question still stands. What is noble about socialism? Why go there at all? Can an argument be made that is not an appeal to emotion? Not trolling. Interested in you argument.
Might be a while getting back to you if you respond. Gotta do some work.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 8:28 am to Animal
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What is noble about socialism?
I never defended socialism. The OP claimed that Bernie was communist and I said that was false. I said Bernie is a follower of Scandinavian politics. Never said it would work out here.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 8:39 am to dawgfan24348
Bernie is a follower of Venezuela politics !!
Complete failure !!
Complete failure !!
Posted on 6/20/19 at 8:41 am to dawgfan24348
Tell us more about this "slightly bigger government" plan. 
Posted on 6/20/19 at 8:51 am to DeltaDoc
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I think Kamala is going radio silent on purpose, allowing the old whities to destroy each other.
I've been saying this for months.
Totally glossed over in the Q1 fundraising totals was that Kamala had the largest % of donations from large donors and PACs. There was a line snuck in a Buttigieg profile that mentioned she was, at that point, the only candidate the Hollywood bundlers were comfortable supporting. She announced early and hired on many of the top Hillary campaign folks.
Kamala is the establishment candidate. Joe just couldn't be convinced to not run after they shut him in a box in 2016.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 8:55 am to dawgfan24348
Study up on communism a bit more. Look around at at the few communist governments that exist in the world and revisit your post.
Bernie is a communist , by the way.
Bernie is a communist , by the way.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 9:30 am to LSU Patrick
So do you have anything of substance to add?
Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:15 am to dawgfan24348
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So do you have anything of substance to add?
You were the one who stated that we all freak out about someone increasing taxes or slightly increasing the size of government. I'm encouraging you to explain that, because that is a huge minimization of what is being proposed by the left in this country.
You also stated that Bernie would beat Trump in the rust belt without proving any reason as to why that would be the case.
So, please add some substance. Please provide some real insight with your assertions. In the meantime, I will just laugh at you, because your comments are ridiculous.
While you're at it, why don't tell us about Bernie's honeymoon in Stockholm, Sweden. Oh wait...it was in 1988 USSR. Yeah. Good ole USSR, the seat of common day Scandinavian capitalist/socialist society. Give me a break.
This post was edited on 6/20/19 at 11:21 am
Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:31 am to LSU Patrick
No I said people on this board call Bernie a communist which he isn't. I asked for some evidence and nothing has been provided.
I never said Berne would beat Trump but out all the candidates he would give him the most trouble due to his populist stances some of which Trump used during his campaign to win the Rust Belt.
I've stated numerous times I'm not a supporter but I do get annoyed when people call someone a communist or a facist when they really aren't. It's no different then when people called Trump a facist over on reddit and yes they called me a fascist Trump lover.
I never said Berne would beat Trump but out all the candidates he would give him the most trouble due to his populist stances some of which Trump used during his campaign to win the Rust Belt.
I've stated numerous times I'm not a supporter but I do get annoyed when people call someone a communist or a facist when they really aren't. It's no different then when people called Trump a facist over on reddit and yes they called me a fascist Trump lover.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:38 am to dawgfan24348
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due to his populist stances
Uh. Bernie populism is nothing like Trump populism. I don't know why it would even occur to anyone to put the two in the same category.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:44 am to dawgfan24348
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Oh do tell me the true agenda. Because everything I've seen from people like Bernie are Scandinavian politics. Nothing that remotely resembles commusium.
He just changes to whatever is the somewhat successful place at the time. He has been in love with Soviet Union and Venezuela politics at different times. He's just moving because those other governments have collapsed. He is a true communist at heart. Not to mention the corporate tax rate in Denmark is currently falling and around 22%, which is not what Bernie preaches. They tax the middle class to support their welfare system and have strict immigration policies. Nothing like what would happen here.
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