re: Is abortion murder?

You do realize rape and incest only account for 1.5% of abortions. Probably a lot less but we all know the girls that get knocked up then scream rape when shite doesn’t go as planned. 80% of abortions are solely for a form of birth control. Again. Number is probably a lot closer to 90-95% because hoes lie

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That’s just a question of pragmatism, not morality, and many people think it’s more pragmatic to look out for #1. Criminals violate the social order all the time because they logically care about their personal well-being, not anybody else’s. Many of them are quite successful and stupid rich, as are many con men like Joel Osteen. Nothing wrong with that, right? They’re rich, they’re happy, and in 100 years it won’t matter even a little bit how they made their money.

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There’s a reason the vast majority of humans don’t commit violent crimes. We know that violent criminals are far more likely to exhibit certain genetic and psychosocial deviations from the norm that predispose to that behavior and those behaviors are selected against in a social society. Simply put, violent criminals are less successful at passing on their genetic information. If they weren’t the case society couldn’t exist as it does, and it does exist in part because of selective pressure.

The rest of your post is just a highly intelligent species developing the ability to hack the system. That doesn’t change the reality of the system though.

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But killing offspring that aren’t my own would be pretty advantageous.

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Only in a society where that behavior doesn’t hurt your ability to reproduce. That’s not the case in literally every human society that has ever existed. Killing an out groups offspring sure, but killing the offspring of those in your “group” (which now really encompasses all humans) sure won’t.

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Logically why would I care about having offspring? I should only care about the 80 or 90 years I might have here and maximizing my personal enjoyment.

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But most of your life isn’t dictated by logic, it’s dictated by biology. Choice is largely an illusion created by our narrow scope of existence.

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Virtually every human being are interacting with other human beings and their environment.

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That's not an answer. Where is "Natural Law" defined?

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But the system as you describe it is amoral; it's silly to pretend that there are objectively wrong behaviors, so why talk about murder? Why be upset about a hypothetical God that kills babies? There's no moral value assigned to passing on your genetic material, or infanticide or any other activity.

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Of course there is no “objective” morality, because there can’t be such a thing. Such an idea is wholly inconsistent with literally everything we know about history and reality.

However, if we accept the system in which we live which DOES have objective parameters (and it does because many things are tangible and objective in our reality) then we absolutely can say that there are behaviors that are objectively more or less likely to lead to personal and group success within that system. And I firmly believe that abortion for convenience is objectively a net negative impact of overall human success and increases net suffering. The sheer volume of depression and poor life outcomes for those who get abortions is strong evidence in and of itself. A woman who has an abortion is something like 7x more likely to suffer from clinical depression than a woman who doesn’t, and depression objectively limits life success below what is maximal. And that’s just one aspect.

Now sure, if you’re a nihilist in the truest sense then nothing matters and we should just burn it down. I’m not going to pretend I have anything to offer such a person.

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Only in a society where that behavior doesn’t hurt your ability to reproduce.

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Again, why would I care? I'm sentient and can understand that evolutionary pressures may not be in my own personal interests. People purposefully don't have children so that they can enjoy life more; it's becoming more and more common. And it's typically higher among people with higher educations and in higher economic categories.

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You're incapable of logic?

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We’re all capable of it, we just don’t operate purely by it very often. What we term “logically” just coincidentally happens to often coincide with behaviors that are clearly driven by our biology.

The number of times you violate your biology in favor of logic that deviates from it is relatively rare, all instances considered. You just don’t realize it.

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Now sure, if you’re a nihilist in the truest sense then nothing matters and we should just burn it down. I’m not going to pretend I have anything to offer such a person.

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I'm a Christian, not a nihilist. I'm pointing out that nihilism is the logic endpoint of a materialistic, atheistic worldview. People like Azkiger like to pretend that the hypothetical God that Christians believe in is "bad", and I'm just demonstrating that he has no scaffolding on which to stand to make that claim.

You've (accurately IMO) explained why a lot of humans behave as they do, but again, that's pragmatism, not morality. And pragmatism only works if the goal is agreed upon to begin with.