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Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:39 pm to asurob1
Well I personally disagree with it. I however can understand the risk of life, rape, incest (esp to a young girl). I do not agree with late term at all. if the mother is at risk and the technology is there (which I believe it is) then take the baby surgically and try to make it work (I'm not a DR so I'm just speaking how I feel - if that isn't possible then it would have to be between the patient and DR to determine best route).
I am not trying to fire up any base. I am relaying something I saw and while you are correct that Late Term Abortion is "rare" (only like 1-2%), 1-2% of 1,000,000 abortions a year adds up. And my personal belief is that 1 unnecessary abortion is too many.
Take that for what it is worth. Like I said these are my beliefs.
I am not trying to fire up any base. I am relaying something I saw and while you are correct that Late Term Abortion is "rare" (only like 1-2%), 1-2% of 1,000,000 abortions a year adds up. And my personal belief is that 1 unnecessary abortion is too many.
Take that for what it is worth. Like I said these are my beliefs.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:46 pm to tigersaint26
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48,932,474 abortions in US from 1970-2011
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:49 pm to lsufanguy
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Well I personally disagree with it. I however can understand the risk of life, rape, incest (esp to a young girl). I do not agree with late term at all. if the mother is at risk and the technology is there (which I believe it is) then take the baby surgically and try to make it work (I'm not a DR so I'm just speaking how I feel - if that isn't possible then it would have to be between the patient and DR to determine best route).
So you are completely in favor of risking the mother's life to make sure that baby gets out of her womb no matter what.
Your faux concern for life is charming. You recognize this comes off as frick the women we gots to save all those babies.
Perfectly healthy pregnancies kill women all the time. A woman gets pregnant, she is taking her own life in to her hands to give birth to that baby. But hey that's not important to you, it's not your life at risk...right?
Good to know you hold simple females in such low regard.
This post was edited on 2/20/14 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:53 pm to asurob1
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that late term ones should only be performed if the mom's life is at risk (rape, incest etc).
what do rape and incest have to do with late term abortions.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:55 pm to asurob1
quote:oh my goodness.
Good to know you hold simple females in such low regard.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:57 pm to asurob1
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Good to know you hold simple females in such low regard.
and this is why reasonable conversations cant be had on here
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:57 pm to lsufanguy
I find it a little odd they admit to having to cremate a baby at that age, yet don't ask if the mother wants the ashes.
If the State requires a burial or cremation to dispose of the body, I don't think you should be able to kill it.
before anyone gets riled up, of course if you need to save a life you do what must be done.
If the State requires a burial or cremation to dispose of the body, I don't think you should be able to kill it.
before anyone gets riled up, of course if you need to save a life you do what must be done.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:57 pm to lsufanguy
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I however can understand the risk of life, rape, incest
These are not in play with late term abortions. They are all reasons for early term abortions. No one gets raped then carries the rapists baby to 3rd trimester and then thinks "Oooh, maybe I should get an abortion."
Same with 'risk of life.' If the baby 'coming out of the mother' = risk of life, then guess what? In late term abortion the baby comes out of the mother. No difference.
Re: Rareness. Not sure of the numbers but I do know that during the Clinton administration a doctor testified that it only occurred about 100 times a year. He later recanted and said he lied. Several 1,000 per year.
I'm not a big pro lifer. I'm a critical thinker. The difference between partial birth abortion and infanticide is non-existent. Either ban both or legalize both.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:58 pm to Homesick Tiger
A planned parenthood spokesperson sent you a Valentine last week. To her organization and her personally the best form of telling you the depth of what love should be is to tell you that you(the male) were sent was an abortion notification.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 1:01 pm to lsufanguy
Abortion is a moral scourge on this nation that can only be solved by the spilling of blood over this guilty land
Posted on 2/20/14 at 1:04 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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HailHailtoMichigan
post less
or at least less hyperbole
Posted on 2/20/14 at 1:04 pm to Zach
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These are not in play with late term abortions. They are all reasons for early term abortions. No one gets raped then carries the rapists baby to 3rd trimester and then thinks "Oooh, maybe I should get an abortion."
Same with 'risk of life.' If the baby 'coming out of the mother' = risk of life, then guess what? In late term abortion the baby comes out of the mother. No difference.
Basically what I was trying to say but apparently I didn't put it out the correct way. I came off as "F the woman"
This post was edited on 2/20/14 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 2/20/14 at 1:07 pm to jcole4lsu
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and this is why reasonable conversations cant be had on here
Being okay with adult females dying just to save that precious life within her isn't reasonable.
This post was edited on 2/20/14 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 2/20/14 at 1:09 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Abortion is a moral scourge on this nation that can only be solved by the spilling of blood over this guilty land
Posted on 2/20/14 at 1:11 pm to asurob1
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Being okay with adult females dying just to safe that precious life within her isn't reasonable.
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No one gets raped then carries the rapists baby to 3rd trimester and then thinks "Oooh, maybe I should get an abortion."
Same with 'risk of life.' If the baby 'coming out of the mother' = risk of life, then guess what? In late term abortion the baby comes out of the mother. No difference.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 1:11 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Abortion is a moral scourge on this nation that can only be solved by the spilling of blood over this guilty land
Whoa. This guy.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 1:15 pm to lsufanguy
quote:no you didn't, it just has to be screamed at someone.
. I came off as "F the woman"
Posted on 2/20/14 at 1:15 pm to asurob1
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Being okay with adult females dying just to safe that precious life within her isn't reasonable.
werent you arguing that the small number of late term abortions rendered the issue moot?
doesnt that same argument apply here - where so few people actually believe that abortions should be illegal even if the mother's life is at stake. basically nobody believes that. if the mother's life is at stake even the most ardent anti abortionist will concede the mother's life takes precedent. the few holdouts that believe different are irrelevant.
you are condemning all anti abortionist based on that few. it would be no different than condemning all Christians based on those nuts over at westboro.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 1:18 pm to jcole4lsu
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you are condemning all anti abortionist based on that few. it would be no different than condemning all Christians based on those nuts over at westboro.
actually I was condemning the poster.
too many men don't realize the risk each and every pregnancy has to women and are far too willing to let them risk their lives even when faced with multiple complications.
Every pregnancy puts a woman's life at risk, no matter how well it's going.
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