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re: In theory, would you be OK with only letting citizens vote if they filed their taxes?

Posted on 4/7/21 at 2:59 pm to
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2173 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 2:59 pm to
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I just asked common sense questions that any CPA would ask. I received literally no answers that would allow an intelligent person to do any calculations to see how these hair brained proposals would affect them.



I’ve literally answered every question you asked me… and you just post elementary school playground insults haha. All the while pretending you are a CPA… sad
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 2:59 pm to
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You ask for what would be taxed, I post directly from the TN department of revenue and you pretend you don’t see and post insults

Maybe he's trying the election judge approach. "What evidence? Case dismissed!"
Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
7284 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 3:02 pm to
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I’ve literally answered every question you asked me… and you just post elementary school playground insults haha. All the while pretending you are a CPA… sad


No, you didn’t. Sales taxes are notoriously difficult to administer and you dodged questions and lied.

You sound like a Democrat.
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2173 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 3:03 pm to
I think he wants me to go through item by item.

Tennis shoes -12%
Fishing poles-18%
Truck tires-10%

That’s as far as I can get haha
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2173 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 3:03 pm to
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You sound like a Democrat


More name calling with no substance. Try harder
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2173 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 3:04 pm to
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No, you didn’t


Show me one question you asked that I didn’t answer? I won’t hold my breathe
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 3:04 pm to
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I think he wants me to go through item by item.

Well if you don't have an exhaustive plan that can be implemented by July 4th, then clearly it's impossible.
Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
7284 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 3:05 pm to
Why, so you can dodge it a second time?

Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
53695 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 3:05 pm to
I mean every move the govt makes is paid for by the taxpayers. It would make too much sense that the taxpayers be the only voters...
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2173 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 3:07 pm to
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Why, so you can dodge it a second time?

Oh, so you admit you can’t? Try harder
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2173 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 3:08 pm to
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I mean every move the govt makes is paid for by the taxpayers. It would make too much sense that the taxpayers be the only voters...


This thread derailed like 7 pages ago my man…
Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
7284 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 3:14 pm to
Dude, you don’t even know 7 from 7%.
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2173 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 3:18 pm to
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Dude, you don’t even know 7 from 7%.


That was squid. Reading comprehension. Try harder
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 3:21 pm to
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Dude, you don’t even know 7 from 7%.

Sure I do. One is the number of wives of the man I met on my way to St. Ives.

The other is a blatant white supremacist hate symbol, you racist.
Posted by Ebridg3
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Sep 2016
2571 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 3:25 pm to
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be a wrecked out liberal


Liberal was a little too nice of a word and indeed incorrectly used. 99.9% of modern liberals vote Republican. You have to be far left of "liberal," ideologically speaking to be blue.
Posted by Miketheseventh
Member since Dec 2017
6544 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 3:35 pm to
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would you be OK with only letting citizens vote if they filed their taxes?

Absofrickinglutely
Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
7284 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 3:41 pm to
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That was squid. Reading comprehension. Try harder


Neither of you seemed to get it.

Then Squid lied about it.

The point is, none of these "national sales tax" proposals are well thought out.

We have one idiot saying a 20% national sales tax rate is better than his 22% income tax rate. Uh, maybe. Assuming that he spent most of what he earned, maybe so.

Assuming Bezos spends 30% of what he makes on things, which is still far more than 20% of what the idiot makes, Bezos' effective taxes paid are lower - Bezos saves money while idiot pays the same or perhaps even more money.

Because nobody could seem to answer when and on what taxes are applied. Someone said no exemptions, meaning that when you sell your home, boom, 20% federal tax, where there is no tax now. Sell your used car? Boom, 20% federal tax on that, too. Simple question, but frick me, what an asshoe for asking.

I didn't derail the thread on purpose, though I'm sure asking intelligent questions didn't help.

No, I don't think one should have to pay federal taxes in order to vote.
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 3:42 pm to
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Neither of you seemed to get it.

Why can't you just agree with me? is apparently as far as he's going to get.
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2173 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 3:46 pm to
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We have one idiot saying a 20% national sales tax rate is better than his 22% income tax rate. Uh, maybe. Assuming that he spent most of what he earned, maybe so.


Ah, now I see why you didn’t respond before… if this is your argument, I’m sorry. I thought at first you were financially competent but I guess I was wrong.

You think me paying 22% on all of my net income is better than paying 20% on good and services? Haha

And I don’t care about what percentage Bezos pays, not sure why you keep referencing him.
Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
7284 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 3:47 pm to
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Why can't you just agree with me? is apparently as far as he's going to get.


I just asked questions. Sales and use tax, once you understand how complicated they are at the state level, don't get all that much less complicated at the federal level.

Most people dodge use taxes, too, lol. Then there are layers of purchases made to produce most of the final products we buy at the store, which would quickly add up if you're not exempting items from tax based on use, which gets complicated. Then there are services, which some states have started taxing and others have not. That gets complicated as well.

People wrongly think that an x% national flat sales tax would be great.

Bezos would love it. He'd pay less taxes than he does now, while many of us would pay the same or more.
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