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In retrospect, Trump should have pardoned himself, his family and all J6 participants
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:09 pm
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:09 pm
frick this fascist bullshite.
This post was edited on 12/11/23 at 10:26 pm
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Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:12 pm to udtiger
How do you propose he could have done that with so many of these charges brought after he left office
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:16 pm to Powerman
Powermoderate still playing games.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:16 pm to Powerman
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How do you propose he could have done that with so many of these charges brought after he left office
Proclamation 4311 was a presidential proclamation issued by President of the United States Gerald Ford on September 8, 1974, granting a full and unconditional pardon to Richard Nixon, his predecessor, for any crimes that he might have committed against the United States as president.
No charges had been brought.
There. Happy?
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:18 pm to udtiger
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There. Happy?
Ford pardoning Nixon is different than Trump pardoning himself. And Trump can't pardon anyone if he isn't in office. Your post still makes no sense
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:21 pm to Powerman
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And Trump can't pardon anyone if he isn't in office. Your post still makes no sense
Oh for frick's sake.
Trump was President from 1/6 to 1/20/21 vested with full constitutional authority regardless of what Milley and the fricktards in Congress think.
There are plenty of constitutional scholars that fully believe a president can pardon himself (Jonathan Turley is one).
This post was edited on 12/11/23 at 10:22 pm
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:24 pm to udtiger
Did he even have reason to believe he would be charged with anything at that time though? I don't recall charges being brought up while he was in office. Not related to the election or January 6th that is
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:25 pm to Powerman
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Did he even have reason to believe he would be charged with anything at that time though? I don't recall charges being brought up while he was in office. Not related to the election or January 6th that is
Hence, the first two fricking words in the title of this thread.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:28 pm to udtiger
Fair enough but it would have possibly been looked at as an admission of guilt. Maybe it was a calculated gamble on his part
Posted on 12/11/23 at 10:35 pm to udtiger
In terms of POTUS himself he was probably receiving legal advice that he would have presidential immunity like all other presidents and pardoning oneself is unnecessary.
But this Trump. The rules are different. Trump and his legal team did not know the rules were different for him at the time.
Going forward all presidents should pardon themselves and associates upon leaving the executive branch. The deep state is vindictive and dangerous.
But this Trump. The rules are different. Trump and his legal team did not know the rules were different for him at the time.
Going forward all presidents should pardon themselves and associates upon leaving the executive branch. The deep state is vindictive and dangerous.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 1:29 am to udtiger
Could have pardoned J6 people.
Could not have pardoned himself because they are charging him with things that happened after he left office. They are not charging him with leaving the WH with classified stuff - it's having that stuff after he left they are going after.
Could not have pardoned himself because they are charging him with things that happened after he left office. They are not charging him with leaving the WH with classified stuff - it's having that stuff after he left they are going after.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 4:29 am to Powerman
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This post was edited on 12/12/23 at 4:36 am
Posted on 12/12/23 at 4:41 am to GumboPot
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But this Trump. The rules are different
There are no rules when you are trying to stop Hitler.
Lefties believe(sincerely) that that is what they are doing.
No rules. They will not bat an eye at the thought of killing him and that is why people like Bongino are saying he is in great danger.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 4:46 am to TrueTiger
Yep, watch the pardons that Biden gives out on his way out….. First time you’ll see Biden actually be smart on anything, ever…..
Posted on 12/12/23 at 5:04 am to udtiger
Even if he was currently the president and was convicted today for State charges, he couldn't pardon himself.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 5:11 am to POTUS2024
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Could not have pardoned himself because they are charging him with things that happened after he left office.
Why do people opine when they are completely ignorant to the rules?
Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:25 am to POTUS2024
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Could have pardoned J6 people.
Could not have pardoned himself because they are charging him with things that happened after he left office. They are not charging him with leaving the WH with classified stuff - it's having that stuff after he left they are going after
The J6 charges that Smith is pursuing in DC are absolutely related to his actions while President. I know it doesn't apply to state level charges or actions once he is no longer president.
This post was edited on 12/12/23 at 6:26 am
Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:37 am to udtiger
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Hence, the first two fricking words in the title of this thread.
Theoretically, IF (and it's big if) Trump could pardon himself, how many of these prosecutions would it thwart?
Not the GA, NY, or Florida prosecutions.
How would that help?
Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:39 am to GumboPot
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In terms of POTUS himself he was probably receiving legal advice that he would have presidential immunity like all other presidents and pardoning oneself is unnecessary.
Then they're shite lawyers. Nixon showed that a President isn't absolutely immune from acts as President.
Plus, as has been stated before, the vast majority of these prosecutions involve behavior that didn't occur while he was President, anyway.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:39 am to GumboPot
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he was probably receiving legal advice
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