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re: In God We Trust now under attack..

Posted on 5/7/18 at 7:51 am to
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 7:51 am to
This has been the case for a long long time.
Posted by Dale51
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 7:52 am to
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Read article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli for a quick refresher on Americas foundation.


And?
Posted by Dale51
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 7:55 am to
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This motto was established in 1956, hardly a "foundation issue."


Maybe you're confusing a foundational issue with when politicians established a "motto"?
Posted by Holden Caulfield
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 7:56 am to
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It was put on coins as early as 1864

True, it's was first applied to coins during the civil war.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 7:56 am to
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Well, it only became the motto in 1956.


The Pledge of Allegiance was amended to include “under God” in 1954. The McCarthy years from 1947-1956 were scary for our nation. Mercifully, he died in 1957. Had he not, Christianity, or some denomination, might be the state religion of the U.S.
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 7:57 am to
I see they have you leaning, the dark side wants to severe the relationship with HIM by what ever means necessary. He would have you believe this nation was not founded on Godly principles and the reason for the founding was to find a place to practice and worship HIM without persecution. It is becoming more and more prevalent that the ties Our nation has to HIM are increasingly being diminished.
Posted by Jimmy2shoes
The South
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 7:57 am to
who
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 7:58 am to
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. Had he not, Christianity, or some denomination, might be the state religion of the U.S.





This is scary that you are of a mind to believe in such drivel.


I have to go help some one with some minor repairs but I will be back.
This post was edited on 5/7/18 at 8:00 am
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 7:58 am to
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The most important "founder" was a Deist.


The "deist" part is debatable, as is the claim of being "the most important" role..
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 7:59 am to
Put your trust in any Government agency ... and let us know how that turns out.
Posted by Holden Caulfield
Hanging with J.D.
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 8:00 am to
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Christianity, or some denomination, might be the state religion of the U.S.

If it didn't become a reality prior to Mr. McCarthy then it was unlikely to become a reality due to him.
Posted by TexasTiger80
Texas
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 8:01 am to
I blame the Illuminati.
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 8:02 am to
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I see they have you leaning, the dark side wants to severe the relationship with HIM by what ever means necessary. He would have you believe this nation was not founded on Godly principles and the reason for the founding was to find a place to practice and worship HIM without persecution. It is becoming more and more prevalent that the ties Our nation has to HIM are increasingly being diminished.



Since Jesus himself said that all who worship him would suffer persecution, I expect it as a Christian.
Secondly, how is removing," In God we Trust" from anything going to impact my personal relationship with God?
Lastly, thanks for your concern and judgmental condemnation. I appreciate it.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 8:04 am to

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The McCarthy years from 1947-1956 were scary for our nation. Mercifully, he died in 1957. Had he not, Christianity, or some denomination, might be the state religion of the U.S.



What are you basing the bolded part on?

You do know that McCarthy was right about the communist connections, right??


Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 8:04 am to
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Since Jesus himself said that all who worship him would suffer persecution, I expect it as a Christian. 
Secondly, how is removing," In God we Trust" from anything going to impact my personal relationship with God? 
Lastly, thanks for your concern and judgmental condemnation. I appreciate it.


Admittedly ive argued with you a lot and we don't agree on much.

But credit where credit is due that was well said.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 8:06 am to
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And?


And you'll see why the OP's understanding of America's foundation is flawed.
Posted by Holden Caulfield
Hanging with J.D.
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 8:07 am to
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You do know that McCarthy was right about the communist connections, right??

He was right about all of it. The New York Times went out of its way to protect communist infiltrators like Alger Hiss.
Posted by BaylorTiger
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 8:08 am to
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Key's Star Spangled Banner in 1814.


Surely you can see the difference in what we’re talking about a song a guy wrote.

quote:

Appearing Since 1864


Yes it was on a 2 cent piece that circulated for 8 years...it wasn’t put onto paper money until the 50’s.

Guys, this is not the hill to die on.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 8:08 am to
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Put your trust in any Government agency ... and let us know how that turns out.


??? What are you referring to?
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 8:09 am to
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Maybe you're confusing a foundational issue with when politicians established a "motto"?



Show me where "In God We Trust" is present on any founding document.
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