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re: In-Custody Death in CA: Mario Gonzalez

Posted on 4/28/21 at 6:24 pm to
Posted by mightyMick
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 6:24 pm to
Since apparently many people resist arrest, maybe the police should use chloroform.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6498 posts
Posted on 4/28/21 at 6:27 pm to
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Police policy will change to just stop verbally acknowledging suspects that are in distress




imagine how much worse they'll look on their body cams when they are trained to disacknowledge the person they are 'struggling to arrest' is unconscious.

Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6498 posts
Posted on 4/28/21 at 6:29 pm to
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Since apparently many people resist arrest, maybe the police should use chloroform.



or ya know multiple cops can figure out how to not kill someone who's 'meaningful resistance' was wiggling around on the ground.
Posted by mightyMick
Member since Aug 2018
3067 posts
Posted on 4/28/21 at 6:39 pm to
How many times do you think police use the knee to the neck or back to control a criminal per day in this country? Hundreds? Thousands? Haven't they been using it for a while? If so, it must be effective. But a handful of people, who resisted arrest or fail to comply with police commands, die while the police are using this successful subduing technique and now they should stop using it? First, those who die in this scenario are at the most fault. Second, I don't think it is a good idea to stop a successful technique because a couple of noncompliant criminals die. I'm more concerned with the LEO's safety when dealing with these people.
Posted by AUFanInSoCal
Orange County
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 6:44 pm to
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Since apparently many people resist arrest, maybe the police should use chloroform.


I was thinking a tranquilizer gun.

"Hey hes's resisting pop him with a dart"... phoomph... "ow! you mutha fu_ zzzz". "Ok load him in the squad car".
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 4/28/21 at 6:48 pm to
This...some tranq guns can take down a lion without harm..think we could make human versions.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6498 posts
Posted on 4/28/21 at 6:54 pm to
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How many times do you think police use the knee to the neck or back to control a criminal per day in this country? Hundreds? Thousands? Haven't they been using it for a while? If so, it must be effective. But a handful of people, who resisted arrest or fail to comply with police commands, die while the police are using this successful subduing technique and now they should stop using it? First, those who die in this scenario are at the most fault. Second, I don't think it is a good idea to stop a successful technique because a couple of noncompliant criminals die. I'm more concerned with the LEO's safety when dealing with these people.


I mean ill support the use if its justified during a violent struggle, but did you watch that video? its a dude in handcuffs totally subdued wiggling on the ground.

non-compliance isn't a death sentence. instinctively struggling to breath isn't resisting arrest. they debated the recovery position and decided against it.

also its not just now they shouldve stopped using it, they shouldve decreased its use it when they learned it was dangerous decades ago. just because its effective doesn't justify it, hell shooting would be even more effective, why would you bother with something less effective after all?
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