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re: I'm in Birmingham, AL for a conference on opioids
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:37 am to the808bass
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:37 am to the808bass
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Lolno
So you think that marijuana should be Schedule 1, and opioids Schedule 2? Do you understand the distinction being made? I think you're missing the point I've made completely.
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:39 am to TeLeFaWx
Are you trying to reword what you wrote?
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:42 am to the808bass
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Are you trying to reword what you wrote?
Not at all...
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:51 am to crazy4lsu
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Drug use should be treated as a public health issue.
Absolutely. We also need to crack down on docs that give out opiods too freely. One lazy doc decided to give my grandmother opiods that she didnt need for years and it made her a shell of a person. Thankfully my mom finally listened to me and my cousin who is a resident doc to find a new doctor for my grandmother who finally took her off 90% of the meds she was on.
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:54 am to golfntiger32
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Sounds like you are a gotdamn moron. There is zero benefit to medical marijuana, other than the strains high in cannabinols and low in THC. Getting high wont fix shite. You will just end up with people hooked on opiods and marijuana.
Please do yourself and everyone else here a favor and never post on this topic again.
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:54 am to bamafan1001
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We also need to crack down on docs that give out opiods too freely. One lazy doc decided to give my grandmother opiods that she didnt need for years and it made her a shell of a person. Thankfully my mom finally listened to me and my cousin who is a resident doc to find a new doctor for my grandmother who finally took her off 90% of the meds she was on.
I remember vividly a bumper sticker I saw a decade ago at Jazz Fest:
"Doctors should teach nutrition
Not pharmaceutical addiction"
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:59 am to the808bass
You post stuff like this all the time and seem to be ignorant of the fact that the schedule 1 status of marijuana prevents research which would flesh out whether or not it is a good treatment for medical issues outside of the ones we already know it is. You don’t know, I hope you realize, because the research isn’t there.
Posted on 8/10/18 at 8:02 am to BamaCoaster
Make sure you tell them about Ibogaine brother. 
Posted on 8/10/18 at 8:06 am to Green Chili Tiger
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Make sure you tell them about Ibogaine brother
Yea. I was going to put it in the talk, but the fact that 1 out of 300 people who try it are hospitalized/die is a non-starter for the docs and "medical experts" in the room.
Though, I whole-heartily agree with the benefits from the plant and it's benefit with withdrawals and aid with opioid addictions.
Posted on 8/10/18 at 8:09 am to BamaCoaster
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the fact that 1 out of 300 people who try it are hospitalized/die is a non-starter for the docs
I thought the stat was 1 in 400 that have a pre-existing heart condition?
Posted on 8/10/18 at 8:14 am to BamaCoaster
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A) Medical Pot
Totally agree.
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B) Ending jail/incarceration for drug users
They're not jailed for using. They're jailed for committing crimes to support their habit.
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C) Decriminalizing all drugs
No ... absolutely not.
Posted on 8/10/18 at 9:12 am to rbWarEagle
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You don’t know, I hope you realize, because the research isn’t there.
I do know why the research isn’t there. I also know that the fact that the research isn’t there highlights the inanity of statements like “we’re going to wonder why we didn’t smoke all our pharmaceuticals!!”
Posted on 8/10/18 at 9:15 am to Green Chili Tiger
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thought the stat was 1 in 400 that have a pre-existing heart condition?
You're right.
But, regardless, it's a non starter for those who are in the medical field.
Posted on 8/10/18 at 9:28 am to the808bass
Except that isn’t what he said. Pain processesing is absolutely something that cannabis has an effect on and it does it without the side effects of opiates. Maybe the statement he made as exaggerated, but it’s easy to agree with the sentiment.
Posted on 8/10/18 at 9:29 am to the808bass
Also, before you get too deep on the “smoking” part, that’s not the only way to ingest cannabinoids.
Posted on 8/10/18 at 9:31 am to rbWarEagle
We’ve done this before. It’s not the only way to ingest cannabinoids. But it’s the way that the potheads want to ingest it.
Posted on 8/10/18 at 9:33 am to rbWarEagle
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Pain processesing is absolutely something that cannabis has an effect on and it does it without the side effects of opiates.
Yes. Cannabinoids affect pain processing. If/when there are clinical trials of marijuana versus opiates, which do you think will have better pain reduction?
This post was edited on 8/10/18 at 9:34 am
Posted on 8/10/18 at 9:36 am to golfntiger32
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Sounds like you are a gotdamn moron. There is zero benefit to medical marijuana, other than the strains high in cannabinols and low in THC. Getting high wont fix shite. You will just end up with people hooked on opiods and marijuana. A better proposal would be to shut down a bunch of shitty Drs handing out opiods like gotdamn candy.
This is an extremely ignorant statement. The positives from medical marijuana are huge, you are dumb or just plain ignorant.
Posted on 8/10/18 at 9:37 am to Muleriderhog
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The positives from medical marijuana are huge, you are dumb or just plain ignorant.
No, they’re not huge. They’re comparable to other already available treatments of symptoms.
Posted on 8/10/18 at 9:44 am to the808bass
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We’ve done this before. It’s not the only way to ingest cannabinoids. But it’s the way that the potheads want to ingest it.
That’s just a dumb thing to say and it really exposes your bias.
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