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re: I’m anti-minimum wage increase...

Posted on 1/24/21 at 2:45 pm to
Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
7284 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 2:45 pm to
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How much does Lebron make?

How about the guy selling peanuts while Lebron plays?


One person can play like Lebron plays.
200,000,000 Americans have the skills to sell peanuts.

Scarcity drives prices.
And I don't like Lebron.

Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
157431 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 2:47 pm to
Ummm. I’m against minimum wage hikes.

Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
7284 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 2:48 pm to
quote:

Ummm. I’m against minimum wage hikes.


No intent on friendly fire, but the liberals on the board can't seem to understand basic economic principles, so I thought I'd add to your comment.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
117459 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 2:49 pm to
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I’m anti-minimum wage increase


I'm anti-minimum wage. If it did not exist there would be more employers taking a chance on 16 y.o. HS dropouts to teach them a skill for a few months. If the kid was good at it he'd get a job at higher than minimum wage.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89448 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 2:53 pm to
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But CEOs can make profits by paying minimum wage and having low level employees on government benefit programs like food stamps and Medicaid. Should they be rewarded for doing that?


A 20-30% profit on operating a company that pays minimum wage ain't shite when you hold 100% of the risk.

People act like some huge fraction of hourly workers are on minimum wage. They aren't. But raising entry level jobs wages over 100% will have an impact. It will suck for everyone already around that 15 mark.
This post was edited on 1/24/21 at 2:56 pm
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 2:56 pm to
Raise it to 1000 an hour and make everyone millionaires. Think about how good that will “feel”..
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89448 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 2:59 pm to
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Then why would raising the minimum wage destroy jobs?


Because teenagers won't be hired and as they get older with no job and no experience they still won't be hired.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128649 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 3:00 pm to
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But realize the hike of CEO pay of 105% the last 10 years is a major problem and makes it highly unreasonable for the bottom to see some kind of increase.


That’s total compensation, I assume. There’s a point in here. But how much of this increase is an increase in stock value?
Posted by dantes69
Boise, Id.
Member since Aug 2011
2061 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 3:00 pm to
then let them start their own co., take all the risks, work 100 hr weeks for several years while building the co.... etc.

get off your arse don't wait for someone else to build it up and then say you want a bigger piece of it, do it yourself, or stfu.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 3:03 pm to
A minimum wage increase at some point was inevitable, but there are two major problems with this one in particular imo.

1. It’s coming at the worst imaginable time. Idk what the administration is thinking, perhaps they need to jam it through while they can? But unemployment is skyrocketing and the types of businesses struggling the most are those that often hire young minimum wage workers. How are they supposed to stay afloat? A restaurant will either shut down (this is what I would do if I owned one, just get the hell out), or the cost of their food will increase so dramatically it will shock people.

2. This is nearly doubling the current national minimum wage and it is so irresponsible to impose such a drastic increase over the entire country at once. Main example being that cost of living is drastically different over different regions. Places like large cities on the coasts have already basically implemented minimum wages of this scale for years so it will not have any real impact on them, but how can a business owner in say Mississippi absorb this blow? I’m not saying you can live comfortably on a minimum wage job here, but also those jobs shouldn’t be meant for that purpose anyway. They should be something for young people to be able to get by on as they get through school, and a handful of other situations. Here you could make a salary of $50,000 and feel very well off compared to coastal cities where such an income would have you living in a cardboard box. Basically this will have a devastating ripple effect on low cost of living areas of the country and then we will all be broke together in harmony
Posted by Number1Gump
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2009
1371 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 3:16 pm to
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I think minimum wage should be more regional. Money is not worth the same amount everywhere. Minimum wage, much like all other wages, should be tied, in part, to cost of living, and be done so regionally.



I can get down with this!
Posted by Number1Gump
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2009
1371 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 3:21 pm to
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Last time I checked nobody was holding a gun to anyone's head forcing them to work at any particular company or for any particular CEO. Why do people always want to punish or limit other's success? What business is it of the general public's how much any employee is paid by any company?



It's called being fair and understanding that even the people at the bottom of the totem pole still contribute to the success of the company. That's that elitist "I did this, You didn't" attitude that fricking up the country!
This post was edited on 1/24/21 at 3:22 pm
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
13193 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 3:26 pm to
if they are going to mandate a $15.00 an hour National minimum wage scale then the Feds need to be on the hook for half of it.

I mean hell, they subsidize TVA what's the difference?
Posted by RamboMizzou
Springfield
Member since Jan 2014
10399 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 3:29 pm to
To put in perspective, Fourtune 500 companies have seen a median growth of 10.5% in that timeframe while their CEO’s saw a 105% increase in salary. Don’t seem right.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
21057 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 4:04 pm to
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It's called being fair and understanding that even the people at the bottom of the totem pole still contribute to the success of the company.


the people at the bottom of the pole are compensated. They’re not slaves.
And they absolutely do not contribute equally.

Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
21057 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 4:06 pm to
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Fourtune 500 companies have seen a median growth of 10.5% in that timeframe while their CEO’s saw a 105% increase in salary. Don’t seem right.



The free market can easily solve this problem.

Stop supporting Fortune 500 companies and only shop at places that pay their employees more. Shop local. Buy American. This doesn’t require government intervention. Our society is so fricking lazy we demand the government get involved in every aspect of life.
This post was edited on 1/24/21 at 4:07 pm
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
8521 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 4:12 pm to
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t's called being fair and understanding that even the people at the bottom of the totem pole still contribute to the success of the company.


That’s exactly what their compensation says. It says, your value is this. You provided this much to my company. And your value is set by the demand for you skill sets. If you don’t like it, there are many ways to change it that don’t involve envy.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
20137 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 4:13 pm to
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CEO pay of 105% the last 10 years is a major problem and makes it highly unreasonable


Pretty broad statement.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
20137 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 4:14 pm to
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That’s highly unbalanced.


Why is balance necessary? We are not a country of equal outcomes, or are we?
Posted by Concernednewguy7
Texas
Member since Dec 2020
1073 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 4:15 pm to
It literally doesn’t make any difference at all what the minimum wage is. It’s all about virtue signaling. You can not artificially give the people who are on the lowest end of the economic spectrum (the ones that actually contribute something) without there being consequences. Once these people are paid more, the costs of their goods/services will also increase. Then you will see the entire country also receive an increase in wages to compensate for the increased cost of living. In the end these people receiving $15/hr will have more money, but will have the same buying power as today.
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