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re: Illinois town bans assault rifles; $1k/day fine for offenders.

Posted on 4/6/18 at 5:06 pm to
Posted by JG77056
Vegas baby, Vegas
Member since Sep 2010
12077 posts
Posted on 4/6/18 at 5:06 pm to
Ths would also ban the Ruger 10/22 no? It has an available 25 round mag.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22970 posts
Posted on 4/6/18 at 5:10 pm to
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Wait so you can still own a gun?


As long as the gun is not defined as an "assault weapon."

What's your point?
This post was edited on 4/6/18 at 5:11 pm
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157776 posts
Posted on 4/6/18 at 5:10 pm to
Just keep it unloaded and in a locked box and all is good apparently. Not sure what good it would do to own one in that condition but still.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 4/6/18 at 5:33 pm to
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As long as the gun is not defined as an "assault weapon."

What's your point?


That this is in no way violating the 2nd amendment.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22970 posts
Posted on 4/6/18 at 5:35 pm to
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That this is in no way violating the 2nd amendment.


Ah....so it is your opinion then that as long as one is able to engage in some form of speech there can be no violation of the first amendment?

You understand how ridiculous that is, right?
This post was edited on 4/6/18 at 5:36 pm
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19567 posts
Posted on 4/6/18 at 5:48 pm to
quote:

That this is in no way violating the 2nd amendment.


It actually is but we all know you are too stupid and lazy to read the relevant court rulings. Deerfield just gave Alan Gura the vehicle to make AWB's permanently off limits of this goes to the US Supreme Court like the McDonald case.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 4/6/18 at 6:17 pm to
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Ah....so it is your opinion then that as long as one is able to engage in some form of speech there can be no violation of the first amendment?

You understand how ridiculous that is, right?



You're using false equivalency.

The intent of the 2nd amendment is not harmed in anyway by an AWB.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22970 posts
Posted on 4/6/18 at 6:22 pm to
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The intent of the 2nd amendment is not harmed in anyway by an AWB.



Okay. I’ll play. What do you think the intend of the 2A is?
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 4/6/18 at 6:28 pm to
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Okay. I’ll play. What do you think the intend of the 2A is?


...

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

That is the intent.

An AWB does not infringe upon that anymore than any other weapon that has been deemed unable for a civilian to possess. Seeing as those designations have not been found unconstitutional, neither is an AWB.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22970 posts
Posted on 4/6/18 at 6:35 pm to
that is the most uneducated circular argument I’ve seen on the issue.

So the banning of a weapon is not an infringement on the 2A if a court seems the weapon not suitable for civilian use? You think this is a good argument?
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 4/6/18 at 6:44 pm to
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The intent of the 2nd amendment is not harmed in anyway by an AWB.
read up on the heller v dc decision

learn what common use means

then figure out how that applies to the most popular semi-automatic rifle in the US
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 4/6/18 at 9:23 pm to
Federal Judge just upheld Mass. rule to ban military style.

The federal judge cited the U.S. Supreme Court ruling last month to not hear challenge to MD law.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22970 posts
Posted on 4/6/18 at 9:49 pm to
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The federal judge cited the U.S. Supreme Court ruling last month to not hear challenge to MD law.


You have a link to that? If the federal judge actually cited a writ denial then he needs to be removed from the bench.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63320 posts
Posted on 4/6/18 at 11:03 pm to
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An AWB does not infringe upon that anymore than any other weapon that has been deemed unable for a civilian to possess. Seeing as those designations have not been found unconstitutional, neither is an AWB.
First this is the equivalent of saying "it's ok to punch a guy in the face, if you've already punched him 10 times before." Plus, it's factually incorrect to say that weapons have been deemed unable for a cvilian to possess. Civilians can (and do) possess fully automatic weapons.
Posted by lsuoilengr
Member since Aug 2008
5436 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 12:01 am to
imagine a town banning:

free speech
the right to a fair trial
the right to privacy
etc

we lose our right to keep and bear arms, we lose them all
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31578 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 12:29 am to
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That this is in no way violating the 2nd amendment.

What is your definition of infringement?

I think we all need to understand,for the next time you get spotted a the gay strip club.
Posted by DawgHorns
Member since Dec 2017
277 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 12:43 am to
This seems like it wont hold up. But federal laws get violated all the time without enforcement. I know a lot of friends from small towns who had teachers holding prayer circles and other creepy "religious experiences" in public schools. 100% illegal but if the local judges allow it it will last unless it gets attention from a higher court.
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