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re: Illegal stabs CA woman to death, 'sanctuary' laws protected suspect 9 times

Posted on 3/14/19 at 4:24 pm to
Posted by jchamil
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 4:24 pm to
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Right, because when a cop kills an innocent kid, that’s against the law (usually). Is an illegal immigrant killing an innocent person against the law, too, or nah?


Yes, an illegal immigrant killing an innocent person is against the law.

So, can you answer my question now?
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 4:25 pm to
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Not good with comebacks, huh? Bless your mother’s heart.

I love irony
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 4:26 pm to
I already answered.

A black person is more likely to be killed by a black person than by a white person; blacks kill at a higher rate than whites. All lives matter.

A citizen is more likely to be killed by a citizen than by an illegal immigrant; citizens kill at a higher rate than illegals. All lives matter.

It’s the same. This narrative is BLM for white people.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 4:27 pm to
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irony
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 4:31 pm to
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 4:35 pm to
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A citizen is more likely to be killed by a citizen than by an illegal immigrant; citizens kill at a higher rate than illegals. All lives matter.


Doesn't matter. Deaths are not about ratios. If all illegal aliens were removed from the country there would be ZERO deaths by illegal aliens. If all lives truly matter, you would take this position.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 4:38 pm to
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I already answered.


Not really, but whatever.

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It’s the same. This narrative is BLM for white people.


I see it more along the lines of being against the death penalty, if keeping out illegals saves even one life...
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 4:45 pm to
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you want racist cops killing innocent black kids?


What a fricking idiot you continue to show yourself to be.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 4:52 pm to
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Doesn't matter. Deaths are not about ratios. If all illegal aliens were removed from the country there would be ZERO deaths by illegal aliens. If all lives truly matter, you would take this position.
The reason why you aren’t down with BLM is the same reason the left isn’t down with this silly narrative.

Another thing about this narrative is that it is an attempt to convince us that we are in grave danger because illegals are present. While it is true that they increase the rate of hit-and-run and identity theft, they lower the overall rate of violent crime, so if you go along with the narrative to that degree—and it is clear that most Everybody here does—you are a fool, and the math confirms this.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 4:54 pm to
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if keeping out illegals saves even one life...
Straight out of the BLM playbook. Virtue signaling that isn’t supported by comprehensive data.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 4:57 pm to
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? Of course I know it's true. Kind of hard to murder someone in America if you're not here


Man.....you are slooooooowwww. You do realize that people can get in this country and visit anytime they want right?


Posted by TigerBait1971
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 5:00 pm to
You are the dumbest bitch on this board.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 5:12 pm to
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I sincerely hope an illegal alien with nine prior arrests rapes your wife and mother.


Just so you can complain about it, probably. Pretty twisted.

Posted by xiv
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 5:14 pm to
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I sincerely hope an illegal alien with nine prior arrests rapes your wife and mother.
- ClientNumber9
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 5:23 pm
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 5:16 pm to
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The reason why you aren’t down with BLM is the same reason the left isn’t down with this silly narrative.


I'm sorry you can't seem to get it- blacks (at least US citizen blacks) have the legal right to be here. Illegal aliens do not.

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While it is true that they increase the rate of hit-and-run and identity theft, they lower the overall rate of violent crime


Again, it's not about ratios. If illegal aliens commit ONE SINGLE violent crime, they are adding to the total number of violent crimes. And that is unacceptable.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 5:22 pm to
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I'm sorry you can't seem to get it
No, I get it—I’m just not a mark who thinks “build a wall” when a murder happens, especially when a successful wall would increase the murder rate.
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Again, it's not about ratios. If illegal aliens commit ONE SINGLE violent crime, they are adding to the total number of violent crimes. And that is unacceptable.
Getting rid of all 11million illegals would decrease the number of murders. Getting rid of 11million random citizens would decrease the number of murders more, though.

If it’s about lives, you’ll push to get rid of 11million random citizens before you worry about the 11million illegals. But it isn’t about lives (you openly hope that someone close to Ebb is murdered—ok, raped—so you obviously don’t care about lives at all). It’s about virtue signaling, and you’re being called on it, is all.

The resources that it would take to get rid of all illegals are mathematically better utilized elsewhere. You’ve fallen for propaganda, and nothing more.

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I sincerely hope an illegal alien with nine prior arrests rapes your wife and mother.
- ClientNumber9
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 5:25 pm
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 5:28 pm to
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While it is true that they increase the rate of hit-and-run and identity theft, they lower the overall rate of violent crime


Those numbers are fake. They only go by conviction rates. So, illegals that commit crimes and then flee to their home shitholes are not included. In one year, 2/3 of the open murder cases in DC were due to this happening. Also, violent crimes against other illegals that do not report it for fear of being deported are not included.

Your argument is dumb anyways. Who cares that they lower the rate of violent crime when they add to the overall number of violent crimes? Would you rather visit Montserrat with a murder rate of 19.88 but only 1 murder or the Congo with a lower murder rate of 13.55 but with over 10k murders?

Let's decrease our violent crime rate by importing hordes of people that increase theft, kidnapping, vagrancy, and accident rates, in addition to billions in welfare. Brilliant idea.
Posted by xiv
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Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 5:37 pm to
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Who cares that they lower the rate of violent crime when they add to the overall number of violent crimes?
Given that any given individual’s chances of being murdered decrease as the murder rate decreases, I’d guess my answer is literally anyone who isn’t a complete idiot.
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Would you rather visit Montserrat with a murder rate of 19.88 but only 1 murder or the Congo with a lower murder rate of 13.55 but with over 10k murders?
Such a difference in sample size invalidates your point.

I’ll refine my point, at any rate. The point isn’t that illegals decrease the murder rate, but that there is no link between their presence and an increase in murders per capita, meaning their presence does not put our citizenry in a grave danger that wouldn’t exist were they absent.
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hordes of people that increase theft, kidnapping, vagrancy, and accident rates, in addition to billions in welfare
These are the problems exacerbated by the presence of illegals. Murder is not one of them.
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 5:38 pm
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 5:42 pm to
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Getting rid of all 11million illegals would decrease the number of murders.


Yes, absolutely.

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Getting rid of 11million random citizens would decrease the number of murders more, though.


This is not legal therefore pointless.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 5:47 pm to
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This is not legal therefore pointless.
Deporting all 11million illegals isn’t legal, either.


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I sincerely hope an illegal alien with nine prior arrests rapes your wife and mother.
- ClientNumber9
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