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Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:32 pm to Wednesday
quote:That’s nothing to do with the case in the OP. It’s a giant leap to associate an individual’s immigration status with violent crime unless there’s evidence of his having immigrated for the specific purpose of committing said violent crime.
illegal aliens who are not who they say they are is a very dangerous problem.
It’s an issue, but not because of anything to do with violence.
This post was edited on 11/15/18 at 8:42 pm
Posted on 11/15/18 at 9:39 pm to xiv
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The exact same as if a citizen killed someone in my family. Anyone who would feel differently is sick and disturbed (or lying).
What I meant was how would you feel about an illegal alien murdering your family member because of our stupid laws that caught and released him? Because EVERYONE that I've talked to about our neighbors kids getting killed by an illegal alien is pissed off about that. And MUCH more so, because it could have been avoided with better immigration laws. I think you are sick or disturbed not to feel the same.
Posted on 11/15/18 at 9:48 pm to xiv
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Equating illegal immigration to burglary is a leap.
And that’s not what I was trying to do.
The parallel is that one crime led to another. It is the same in both scenarios. One crime (illegally entering) led to multiple counts of attempted murder. Does murder happen without burglary? Yep. It does. Does attempted murder happen with legal citizens? Yep it does.
If, in my example, had the home not been burglarized, the occupant would be alive.
In this reality, if the alien was outside the country, these attacks wouldn’t have happened.
And before you circle back to your claim of unknown status ..... again.. why is there an ICE detainer on him?
Posted on 11/15/18 at 10:14 pm to bama1959
quote:Applying a family’s immediate mourning anecdotally to the general logic of this topic won’t work and is inappropriate. I won’t play along.
What I meant was how would you feel about an illegal alien murdering your family member because of our stupid laws that caught and released him? Because EVERYONE that I've talked to about our neighbors kids getting killed by an illegal alien is pissed off about that. And MUCH more so, because it could have been avoided with better immigration laws. I think you are sick or disturbed not to feel the same.
Illegal immigration is not a threat to our safety, and you can’t provide any stats to refute that. I know you wish you could, and we all know why.
Posted on 11/15/18 at 10:15 pm to xiv
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if we replaced a number of our random citizens with the same number of random illegal immigrants, our country would be statistically safer.
This is terribly incorrect. South American countries where these illegals are coming from have soaring murder rates and rapes are hardly reported. Cartels kill by the houndreds and the ones coming here aren’t exacty model citizens.
I think you just make shite up. That probably why you’re getting destroyed in this thread
Posted on 11/15/18 at 10:16 pm to CleverUserName
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quote:And that’s not what I was trying to do.
Equating illegal immigration to burglary is a leap.
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It is the same in both scenarios.
Posted on 11/15/18 at 10:17 pm to xiv
quote:
It’s a giant leap to associate an individual’s immigration status with violent crime unless there’s evidence of his having immigrated for the specific purpose of committing said violent crime.
Is not associating immigration status with violent crime.
It’s saying if he was not here... the crime wouldn’t have happened. Crossing into the country illegally is a crime. If you prevent one crime.... in this case... you prevent another.
Why do you arrest people who are drunk? So he doesn’t kill someone. Does everyone who drives drunk kill people? Nope. But you don’t know till it happens and he is breaking the law. By enforcing the law, you may have saved someone’s life. And you may not have at the same time.
And as a side thought.... if we allow illegal aliens to just break immigration law without consequence and with leftist blessing...then what law can I be allowed to break?
Posted on 11/15/18 at 10:18 pm to xiv
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Illegal immigration is not a threat to our safety, and you can’t provide any stats to refute that. I know you wish you could, and we all know why.
If ONE illegal immigrant commits ONE violent crime... ever then this statement is false. Of course they commit many
Posted on 11/15/18 at 10:20 pm to xiv
Still avoiding the questions. Any second now the race card will be played or a juvenile insult is in order. Or what I call.. the liberal surrender.
Posted on 11/15/18 at 10:20 pm to DevilDogTiger
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South American countries where these illegals are coming from have soaring murder rates and rapes are hardly reported. Cartels kill by the houndreds and the ones coming here aren’t exacty model citizens.
LINK
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Undocumented immigrants are considerably less likely to commit crime than native-born citizens, with immigrants legally in the United States even less likely to do so. A number of studies published in the past several months clearly illustrate the consensus.
quote:Smooches n toodles
I think you just make shite up. That probably why you’re getting destroyed in this thread
Posted on 11/15/18 at 10:21 pm to CleverUserName
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Arkansas paper. National news omits that he was illegial
It's gotten so omitting stuff is how they let us know. LOL
I just listened to a news report yesterday about 3 "teen" boys who committed a robbery. I was like, "OK, now I know they weren't white because if they were, you'd have told me".
Same report, a few minutes later, mentioned another crime where they said they could give no description of the suspects because they were "wearing Halloween masks".
Again. I was like. "OK. These dudes weren't white either cause...........yeah........people can still see your fricking hands".
Posted on 11/15/18 at 10:22 pm to CleverUserName
quote:I’ve already dealt with your material. It’s done.
Still avoiding the questions
I’m also not a liberal. Sounds like you don’t know what that word means.
Posted on 11/15/18 at 10:23 pm to xiv
You linked the Washington Post as defense of you position?
ETA and the study show conviction rate not commission of crime
ETA and the study show conviction rate not commission of crime
This post was edited on 11/15/18 at 10:26 pm
Posted on 11/15/18 at 10:23 pm to xiv
quote:This is another example of how liberals make the media biased.
That’s because it isn’t important.
1)Media populated by almost all liberals
2)Liberals seem to think that the only shite in the world that's important is if THEY SAY SO
Posted on 11/15/18 at 10:25 pm to xiv
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I’m also not a liberal
Trying to be the next VOR now that VOR abandoned his lie
Posted on 11/15/18 at 10:25 pm to DevilDogTiger
quote:Weak rebuttal, pal. Here’s what the article cites. Feel free to provide evidence that refutes anything in this piece from Cato:
You linked the Washington Post as defense of you position?
LINK
It’s obvious with anyone thinking straight, but if you’re here illegally, the last thing you want to do is give the cops a reason to notice you. Hence, they tend to be better-behaved than we native-borns.
Illegal immigration is not a threat to our safety.
This post was edited on 11/15/18 at 10:28 pm
Posted on 11/15/18 at 10:25 pm to DevilDogTiger
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You linked the Washington Post as defense of you position?
When you have nothing you go to the ad hom.
Pathetic.
Posted on 11/15/18 at 10:26 pm to xiv
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xiv
It’s time for you to take a break. Your sky screams are noted, and you have embarrassed yourself and your family.
Take a breather, sleep it off, and sky scream again tomorrow.
TIA
Posted on 11/15/18 at 10:27 pm to FightnBobLafollette
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SkyScreamingBob
Love seeing your daily sky screams
Such a putz
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