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Posted on 6/4/19 at 8:54 am to Strannix
Well there is the answer to gun violence. Remove or some how neutralize all urban blacks.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 8:56 am to AggieHank86
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If you remove a troublesome demographic or region from the stats, would ANY country in the “bottom ten” not improve its position?
That actually isn't the point.
Studies of basically anything involving groups of humans should be "normed" when wanting to make direct comparisons. This applies to medical studies and is typically done. It also applies to pretty much any other study but typically researchers would rather gouge their eyes out than risk the cries of racism if they did it.
The reality is, Americans of white European descent compare favorably with people of white Euro descent everywhere. AND, for that matter, American blacks compare favorably with people of black African descent everywhere pretty much regardless of what subject area you study.
Alas, things get challenging if one tries to do cross national comparisons while ignoring demographic differences.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 9:00 am to 4LSU2
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The absence of fathers in the homes of their children is the biggest issue that leads to the black on black crime, IMO.
Putting aside the problem of deciding which home to insert these wayward dad's, crappy fathers in homes don't improve jack.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 9:05 am to CarrolltonTiger
The point is after a generation or so they’d be less crappy because they’d be socialized in a home and not a gang.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 9:08 am to CarrolltonTiger
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Putting aside the problem of deciding which home to insert these wayward dad's, crappy fathers in homes don't improve jack.
Yup
It's become a death spiral.
Initially, simple absence of fathers probably drove some negative social pathologies.
But now, the young black male, on the whole, is a fricking train wreck culturally. Having them in the homes would be of exceedingly marginal benefit at this point.
Alas, the final nail though is even absent having fathers in homes, MOST male children outside of black culture at least have lots of decent male role models in their communities to look to. But, if an urban black male looks out on the landscape around him, even the males OUTSIDE his home are generally shitty role models.
A young black male today who is genuinely trying to make good on his life in these environments is pretty much entirely on his fricking own.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 9:11 am to ShortyRob
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A young black male today who is genuinely trying to make good on his life in these environments is pretty much entirely on his fricking own.
Can't disagree with this. I wish something would change but it may be too late.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 9:12 am to Strannix
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Yet the playbook is forever and always to attack law abiding gun owners, interdasting.
Even more sad are the cuck "gun owners" who willingly give up rights at the drop of a hat for still unknown "strategic" reasons.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 9:13 am to 4LSU2
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The absence of fathers in the homes of their children is the biggest issue that leads to the black on black crime
It's a complicated issue and can't be pointed at one thing, but this certainly doesn't help.
I wonder where all those black fathers go? Could it possibly be to our for-profit prison system designed to lock away men of color for minor offenses?
Posted on 6/4/19 at 9:14 am to Strannix
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inner city criminals don’t care about gun laws, or any other laws for that matter. Yet the playbook is forever and always to attack law abiding gun owners, interdasting.
Time to do what the French did and the English did, setup and Island, away from anything and send them there, permanently
Posted on 6/4/19 at 9:17 am to DemonKA3268
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Can't disagree with this. I wish something would change but it may be too late.
I have said many times in my life that one of the worst things we ever did under the guise of doing something "good" was create "public housing".
No one thought of the social consequences of what happens when you:
1. Create high concentrations of people who are failures at life(and let's just be honest here, that's what those places do)
2. Those high concentrations then end up destroying whatever schools they are all zoned for
3. They end up with exceedingly few influences outside of these concentrations.
What's funny is, our governments spotted the problematic symptoms early on. That's what caused them to start busing kids from the projects across town which was a fool's errand if ever there was one.
But, out governments have NEVER accepted that it was the concentration itself that precipitated the problems in the first place.
Poor people tend to congregate anyway and so, you always have a little of this issue. But we fricking made it POLICY and for all practical purposes, the policy "rounded them up" to a much higher degree.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 9:18 am to Strannix
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Yet the playbook is forever and always to attack law abiding gun owners, interdasting.
I think part of the reason that they do this because it is easier to go after law abiding citizens than real scary people and they can delude themselves into believing they are doing something that will solve a problem.
I think the attacking the easy target strategy is also taken by the folks that protest cops. It is easier to confront police officers that have to play by a certain set of rules and have some level of accountability than it is to confront a violent gang that plays by no rules.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 9:20 am to LSUconvert
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I wonder where all those black fathers go? Could it possibly be to our for-profit prison system designed to lock away men of color for minor offenses?
This is what is known as putting the cart before the horse.
Besides, even at their height between 2007 and 2017, there were only a total of about 600K blacks in prison and not even all of those are men, or young.
There are about 18M black males in the US.
I don't think the prison system is what's keeping dad from being worth a shite or even present.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 9:21 am to ShortyRob
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I have said many times in my life that one of the worst things we ever did under the guise of doing something "good" was create "public housing". No one thought of the social consequences of what happens when you: 1. Create high concentrations of people who are failures at life(and let's just be honest here, that's what those places do) 2. Those high concentrations then end up destroying whatever schools they are all zoned for 3. They end up with exceedingly few influences outside of these concentrations. What's funny is, our governments spotted the problematic symptoms early on. That's what caused them to start busing kids from the projects across town which was a fool's errand if ever there was one. But, out governments have NEVER accepted that it was the concentration itself that precipitated the problems in the first place. Poor people tend to congregate anyway and so, you always have a little of this issue. But we fricking made it POLICY and for all practical purposes, the policy "rounded them up" to a much higher degree.
I agree but all the blame can't lay there. Why do some get out and make it while the majority don't? Those that do are called "Uncle Tom's". I have never understood this unless it's just petty jealousy that someone got off their arse and made something of themselves.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 9:23 am to PhilemonThomas
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I think part of the reason that they do this because it is easier to go after law abiding citizens than real scary people
You really believe this?
Don't you think that by limiting the number of guns in the black market that can price out a certain percentage of criminals from obtaining them?
I don't think we should ban guns, but to pretend that gun control laws have NO impact on gun related deaths just isn't true and ignores the mass amount of data not only from here in the U.S.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 9:23 am to Mulat
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inner city criminals don’t care about gun laws, or any other laws for that matter. Yet the playbook is forever and always to attack law abiding gun owners, interdasting.
Time to do what the French did and the English did, setup and Island, away from anything and send them there, permanently
It would make Gilligan's Island look like the Harvard of the South Pacific.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 9:24 am to ShortyRob
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I don't think the prison system is what's keeping dad from being worth a shite or even present.
You're certainly entitled to your opinion.
But prison LITERALLY keeps black fathers from being present. That's an inarguable fact.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 9:26 am to ShortyRob
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I don't think the prison system is what's keeping dad from being worth a shite or even present.
You are right. There is a responsibilty problem and a lack of giving a shite about doing better problem.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 9:27 am to Strannix
The south gets a lot of flack from libs for being poor, fat, and STD ridden, but everyone knows if your removed a certain demographic all those stats would instantly become normal or middling.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 9:27 am to LSUconvert
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But prison LITERALLY keeps black fathers from being present. That's an inarguable fact.
That's not true as you wrote it. Try again.
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