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If the Tariffs are meant to return manufacturing what’s the point of negotiating?
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:25 am
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:25 am
I support the tariffs and it’s desperately needed. America has become a museum of what made us great and we now can’t sustain ourselves.
However the mixed messages are confusing. Countries like Israel and Vietnam offered to remove all tariffs. If we reciprocated that especially to Vietnam this would do more damage to manufacturing than before.
So is the move to push for free trade or to return manufacturing ?
However the mixed messages are confusing. Countries like Israel and Vietnam offered to remove all tariffs. If we reciprocated that especially to Vietnam this would do more damage to manufacturing than before.
So is the move to push for free trade or to return manufacturing ?
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Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:27 am to RaoulDuke504
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So is the move to push for free trade or to return manufacturing ?
"Yes" is the current answer.
That's subject to change, of course.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:27 am to RaoulDuke504
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If the Tariffs are meant to return manufacturing what’s the point of negotiating?
Some countries will move manufacturing to the U.S.
Some countries will drop their tariffs on U.S. goods entering their country so we will drop tariffs on their goods entering our country.
Some countries will throw a fit and cry.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:28 am to RaoulDuke504
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So is the move to push for free trade or to return manufacturing ?
Theres no one rule that will apply to all. Each country will be dealt with differently., which Trump has explained. Its only been a day, give it time.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:29 am to RaoulDuke504
Well even if we return to manufacturing more things at home, we need time to build that manufacturing base due to being so dependent on foreign goods for so long. So it would seem that we do still have a need at the moment for a lot of foreign goods while developing things.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:30 am to lake chuck fan
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Theres no one rule that will apply to all. Each country will be dealt with differently., which Trump has explained. Its only been a day, give it time.
This is what I was looking for any source on that?
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:33 am to GumboPot
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Some countries will move manufacturing to the U.S.
Some countries will drop their tariffs on U.S. goods entering their country so we will drop tariffs on their goods entering our country.
Some countries will throw a fit and cry.
Taxes and costs imposed on Americans and people across the globe are about to begin an ascent like few of us have seen in our lifetimes, and multitudes are applauding it.
I cannot wrap my head around fiscal conservatives looking at this and being “Hell yeah!”
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:44 am to CollegeFBRules
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Taxes and costs imposed on Americans and people across the globe are about to begin an ascent like few of us have seen in our lifetimes, and multitudes are applauding it.
I would pay more for goods that last 80 years like they did in the 50’s over Chinese crap that 30% less and last 1 year.
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Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:45 am to CollegeFBRules
Because we are being ripped off by our so called allies, that's why. Being conservative means not liking getting ripped off, period. Yes, we pay more for products but if move those back to the US it is better for us, period. Making China rich off our money is BS...
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:46 am to RaoulDuke504
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I would pay more for goods that last 80 years like they did in the 50’s over Chinese crap that 30% less and last 1 year.
You’re an outlier. Millions of your fellow citizens vote millions a time a day to buy cheaper.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:48 am to bamalee
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Because we are being ripped off by our so called allies, that's why. Being conservative means not liking getting ripped off, period. Yes, we pay more for products but if move those back to the US it is better for us, period. Making China rich off our money is BS...
Let me ask you this, when corporations first started moving their manufacturing overseas, why did they do it?
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:48 am to bamalee
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Making China rich off our money is BS...
yes, the largest economy in the world is a "victim."
Who has the most disposable income, the average Chinese or the average American?
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:50 am to CollegeFBRules
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Taxes and costs imposed on Americans and people across the globe are about to begin an ascent like few of us have seen in our lifetimes, and multitudes are applauding it.
I'm applauding the more fair and free trade with Vietnam (think cheaper shoes and cloths), India (think cheaper iPhones), EU is considering lowering their tariffs from 10% to 2.5% (which means we will too), and there are more counties considering the same as this tariff reciprocity is currently in flux.
When tariffs are on the negotiation table there is one of two ways things can go, higher or lower tariffs for both trading partners. It is self evident by the word "reciprocity" that Trump is arguing for "fair" trade and if that means freer trade, more the better...because we do not have free or fair trade right now.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:52 am to CollegeFBRules
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You’re an outlier. Millions of your fellow citizens vote millions a time a day to buy cheaper.
I've shared American alternatives here before. They exist, people just don't want to pay for them. You can buy a keyboard, right now, made in Kentucky. I'll bet nobody here has one. There are clothes made here, shoes made here, stuff people touch and use every single day.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:53 am to RaoulDuke504
If the playing field is even, then the free market can determine who can provide the best service. Some places will be better than the US for manufacturing, but if we can get any of it back her, it is a win.
When we aren't competing against slave labor, we will have a shot, especially with robotic factories.
When we aren't competing against slave labor, we will have a shot, especially with robotic factories.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:54 am to RaoulDuke504
You are the one at the pearly gates telling St Peter you wanted to change but it was just to hard. Weak.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:54 am to CollegeFBRules
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Let me ask you this, when corporations first started moving their manufacturing overseas, why did they do it?
U.S. policy encouraged it. From unilaterally opening up our markets without demanding concessions on issues like environment, labor (not so much wages, but child labor, work conditions, etc.). While de-incentivizing the manufacture of goods in the U.S. in favor of higher paying service sector investment and jobs.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:02 am to CollegeFBRules
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You’re an outlier. Millions of your fellow citizens vote millions a time a day to buy cheaper.
Stupid people need to be saved from themselves
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:04 am to RogerTheShrubber
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yes, the largest economy in the world is a "victim." Who has the most disposable income, the average Chinese or the average American?
Who raised their citizens standards of living and who’s declined in the last 30 years? US or China?
The economy is more than GDP, GDP can’t buy a home.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:05 am to RaoulDuke504
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Who raised their citizens standards of living and who’s declined in the last 30 years? US or China?
Both nations have increased their citizens quality of life over the past 30 years, objectively.
Your like a Democrat. Focused on the ones who got left behind. Thats on them.
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