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re: If Tariffs Are Put in Place People Won't Be Able to Afford Cars
Posted on 11/9/24 at 5:37 am to DavidTheGnome
Posted on 11/9/24 at 5:37 am to DavidTheGnome
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Or hope you’re not in retail and demand evaporates because everything vastly went up in price.
Oh, no! We won't be able to fill our landfills with cheap Chinese crap, and we're forced to become more thrifty. The horror.
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Posted on 11/9/24 at 5:40 am to NC_Tigah
he just got destroyed He will never and all of them can never answer how much more we pay due to tarrifs
Posted on 11/9/24 at 5:46 am to PurpleandGold Motown
The tariffs are the problem and not the ridiculous environmental bullshite regulations that have made our cars go from simple machines to ultra complicated computers on wheels? They’re unaffordable because of Dem policies in the first place, especially maintenance costs.
This post was edited on 11/9/24 at 5:47 am
Posted on 11/9/24 at 5:48 am to Morpheus
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The key to Tariffs is they take time to become impactful for everyone across all industries.
Trump knows a plan with Tariffs to make us the greatest country by far while harvesting our own energy and letting Elon build a life on another planet. We have everything we need if we stay out of our own way. If he can run a successful 4 years and then pass it off to Vance we will be in great shape
Agreed. The path that brought us to being overly dependent on other countries for basic products didn't happen overnight, neither will the solutions.
Listen to Howard Lutnick explain how Trump will use tariffs. Below is a 3 minute video...
Posted on 11/9/24 at 5:55 am to oklahogjr
quote:First off, that "tariff cost" is vastly overstated. E.g., In the case of China, assorted subsidy offsets are variably employed mitigating US consumer exposure. Brookings does not even bother to approximate that calculation.
American firms and consumers paid the vast majority of the cost of Trump’s tariffs.
Second, Brookings vaguely intimates assorted international retaliation to US tariffs without going into specifics. The insinuation is that US-foreign trade was an even playing field to begin with, and Trump unsettled it. In some cases, one could write-off such posits as simpleton or ignorant. In Brookings' case, it's a matter of partisan duplicity.
But again, why the spastic conniptions about tariffs?
Even assuming everything Brookings asserts is factually correct (as ridiculous as that would be), we are running prohibitive deficits atop massive debt.
Does that register?
Revenues have to come from somewhere to address our debt and deficit.
Does that register?
Sacrifices and cuts have to come from somewhere to address our debt and deficit.
Does that register?
Democrats (with whom Brookings is allied) proposed a 33% corporate tax increase as tariff alternative.
In fact, there is no anti-Tariff, rational justification for alternate US corporate tax increases. None.
Posted on 11/9/24 at 6:03 am to NC_Tigah
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First off, that "tariff cost" is vastly overstated. E.g., In the case of China, assorted subsidy offsets are variably employed mitigating US consumer exposure. Brookings does not even bother to approximate that calculation.
Second, Brookings vaguely intimates assorted international retaliation to US tariffs without going into specifics. The insinuation is that US-foreign trade was an even playing field to begin with, and Trump unsettled it. In some cases, one could write-off such posits as simpleton or ignorant. In Brookings' case, it's a matter of partisan duplicity.
But again, why the spastic conniptions about tariffs?
Even assuming everything Brookings asserts is factually correct (as ridiculous as that would be), we are running prohibitive deficits atop massive debt.
Does that register?
Revenues have to come from somewhere to address our debt and deficit.
Does that register?
Sacrifices and cuts have to come from somewhere to address our debt and deficit.
Does that register?
Democrats (with whom Brookings is allied) proposed a 33% corporate tax increase as tariff alternative.
In fact, there is no anti-Tariff, rational justification for alternate US corporate tax increases. None.
So basically still no sources or details on your side. You've got one graph that tells a partial story and some opinions. Knowing your doctorate isn't in economics I think I'll stick with economists....
Posted on 11/9/24 at 6:04 am to PurpleandGold Motown
the entire economy is elevated when we start making our own stuff. keeping our money here, increasing the true middle class in this country.
We need manufacturing to come home on MANY things, (meds, necessity goods, safety concerned product “chips”) etc…
America First with Tariffs will lift our entire economy. ESPECIALLY MIXED IN WITH SUPER CHEAP OIL/GAS prices, and being a NET EXPORTER.
they will get rid of a ton of taxes with the tariff system.
and the country will be a better place. ONE CANNOT analyze it the way your analyzing it, its not the same.
We need manufacturing to come home on MANY things, (meds, necessity goods, safety concerned product “chips”) etc…
America First with Tariffs will lift our entire economy. ESPECIALLY MIXED IN WITH SUPER CHEAP OIL/GAS prices, and being a NET EXPORTER.
they will get rid of a ton of taxes with the tariff system.
and the country will be a better place. ONE CANNOT analyze it the way your analyzing it, its not the same.
Posted on 11/9/24 at 6:07 am to 10thyrsr
Isn’t Trump eliminating federal income tax alongside tariffs too? Wouldn’t that in fact work out to having more money while also bringing business back to the states?
Posted on 11/9/24 at 6:11 am to MrJimBeam
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Isn’t Trump eliminating federal income tax alongside tariffs too? Wouldn’t that in fact work out to having more money while also bringing business back to the states?
Would be a massive decrease in government revenue unless massive tarrifs re introduced...trump has zero plan to balance a budget or pay back debt...
Posted on 11/9/24 at 6:13 am to SDVTiger
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SDVTiger
Like 3 threads your running around in with no insight. Shocking. Link a source and provide some value or get lost.
Posted on 11/9/24 at 6:14 am to oklahogjr
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So basically still no sources or details on your side
Yet you also have provided zero details
Can you at least attempt to provide a number on how much we paid in taxes due to tarrifs
Posted on 11/9/24 at 6:15 am to oklahogjr
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Like 3 threads your running around in with no insight. Shocking. Link a source and provide some value or get lost.
Flustered. We all know you will never be able to provide any details
Posted on 11/9/24 at 6:16 am to PurpleandGold Motown
Build here instead of elsewhere and ship in.
Not that complicated.
Not that complicated.
Posted on 11/9/24 at 6:18 am to SDVTiger
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While estimates vary, economic analyses suggest the average American household has paid somewhere from several hundred up to a thousand dollars or more per year thanks to higher consumer prices attributable to the tariffs
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Yet you also have provided zero details
Can you at least attempt to provide a number on how much we paid in taxes due to tarrifs
You either can't understand or didn't bother to read my multiple sources....
Posted on 11/9/24 at 6:18 am to NC_Tigah
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First off, that "tariff cost" is vastly overstated.
It's inflationary. Prices from US mfg will rise too.
It will run counter to any attempts to drive down costs, and will do little more than create jobs for immigrants
Posted on 11/9/24 at 6:21 am to oklahogjr
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You either can't understand or didn't bother to read my multiple sources
Your sources provide zero details. Its amazing how with all the info you have provided you cant answer a simple question
So we will ask again and we will witness you avoid it
How much more did we pay in "taxes" due to the mean tarrifs?
Posted on 11/9/24 at 6:23 am to SDVTiger
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Your sources provide zero details. Its amazing how with all the info you have provided you cant answer a simple question
So we will ask again and we will witness you avoid it
How much more did we pay in "taxes" due to the mean tarrifs?
ok if you repeat yourself enough you'll for sure win. Posted on 11/9/24 at 6:24 am to oklahogjr
Refusing to even attempt a coherent answer
Its just the costs are passed on to the consumer per NBC
Its just the costs are passed on to the consumer per NBC
Posted on 11/9/24 at 6:26 am to SDVTiger
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Refusing to even attempt a coherent answer
Its just the costs are passed on to the consumer per NBC
Per Brookings and every other economist I can find. Can you find a single source to backup your assanine tarrifs arent inflationary theories? Certainly haven't provided any counterpoints just trolling along adding zero value
This post was edited on 11/9/24 at 6:27 am
Posted on 11/9/24 at 6:28 am to oklahogjr
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Per Brookings and every other economist I can find
So what is the number? You can break it down per year, month or day
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