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If Stingers/javelins, Why not jets?
Posted on 3/10/22 at 11:09 am
Posted on 3/10/22 at 11:09 am
Because stingers and javelins can't fly to Moscow at 1500mph with a payload of bombs. Two dramatically different weapons. Lots of talking heads and politicians saying they don't see the difference. 

Posted on 3/10/22 at 11:12 am to BarleyPop
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Because stingers and javelins can't fly to Moscow at 1500mph with a payload of bombs. Two dramatically different weapons. Lots of talking heads and politicians saying they don't see the difference.
Uh, no.
Ukraine already had/has them, and could do that if they wanted.
Know why they don’t? They wouldn’t make it 10 mi in Russian airspace with S400s. Heck, they might even have S500s.
Moscow isn’t worried about being bombed. They are worried about their columns on Ukraine roads getting obliterated, and the west is deathly afraid of Putin if his troops get mowed down.
This post was edited on 3/10/22 at 11:14 am
Posted on 3/10/22 at 11:15 am to BobBoucher
Would this be why the US and Poland are fricking with each other over those Polish MiGs which are supposed to be delivered to Ukraine?
Posted on 3/10/22 at 11:15 am to BobBoucher
quote:s500s are specifically for ballistic missile defense, they wouldnt waste one on a mig 29 out of ukraine
Heck, they might even have S500s
This post was edited on 3/10/22 at 11:18 am
Posted on 3/10/22 at 11:17 am to BobBoucher
I agree. Didn't say they would make it. Pointing out how dramatically different the threat is from a fighter jet vs. people running around with single shot rockets.
People are trying to say that jets aren't more escalatory than bazookas. Terrible argument.
People are trying to say that jets aren't more escalatory than bazookas. Terrible argument.
Posted on 3/10/22 at 11:18 am to teke184
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Would this be why the US and Poland are fricking with each other over those Polish MiGs which are supposed to be delivered to Ukraine?
Bingo.
If they were smart, they would have done it on the down-lo like Putin did In Afghanistan and Iraq to us. Let him get a taste of his own medicine.
But no. We have to tell the world we are afraid.
This post was edited on 3/10/22 at 11:19 am
Posted on 3/10/22 at 11:22 am to BarleyPop
Because you can train a reasonably intelligent person to use a stinger or javelin in 6 weeks and the return on investment makes sense for both parties.
Posted on 3/10/22 at 11:25 am to Smokeyone
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Because you can train a reasonably intelligent person to use a stinger or javelin in 6 weeks
Closer to 6 minutes.
Posted on 3/10/22 at 11:44 am to BarleyPop
If Ronald Reagan or Trump was in office I think it’s safe to say Ukraine wouldn’t have had to beg for those Migs. Reagan and Trump would have just sent those jets to Ukraine without having a whole discussion about the issue in the media. Why the Biden White House wants to advertise our every move to our enemies I do not know. They either tell the bad guys what our every move is going to be or blab to the bad guys everything we know. These people are so dangerous.
Posted on 3/10/22 at 12:26 pm to BarleyPop
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Because you can train a reasonably intelligent person to use a stinger or javelin in 6 weeks
Closer to 6 minutes.
But virtual training takes longer.
Posted on 3/10/22 at 12:35 pm to BarleyPop
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Lots of assholes talking out their asses saying they don't see the difference.
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