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re: If Putin is victorious in Ukraine, what is his next move?
Posted on 12/9/23 at 9:47 am to Gaspergou202
Posted on 12/9/23 at 9:47 am to Gaspergou202
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NATO was no threat to them
Wrong. Why keep expanding NATO if Russia isn't the target? Why do you think the country that should be our friend is continually vilified? The ussr fell... But Russia is our boogie man. Russia Russia, Russia.
Posted on 12/9/23 at 10:45 am to omegaman66
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Wrong. Why keep expanding NATO if Russia isn't the target? Why do you think the country that should be our friend is continually vilified? The ussr fell... But Russia is our boogie man. Russia Russia, Russia.
Wrong. NATO keeps expanding because of Russian aggression against its neighbors.
Sweden has been neutral since 1809! Many many wars have occurred in Europe in the last 214 years! They are not anti Russian.
Finland was neutral from their independence in 1917 until the USSR invaded them in the Winter War of 1939-40. They joined Germany against USSR in 1941-44, in the Continuation War in an attempt to regain the territory that the Soviets stole. They lost. They lost more territory, had to pay for the war, fight Germany, and give deference to Russian concerns in order to remain a neutral independent nation. They have no desire to invade Russia either!
NATO will not attack Russia because of Russia’s nuclear arsenal. To believe otherwise is just plain stupid, or based in insane paranoia!
Stop carrying Russian water! One can like, hate, or be indifferent to Ukraine, but promoting Putin’s Russia is worse than stupid. It’s dishonest and siding with evil.
Posted on 12/9/23 at 1:21 pm to Jax-Tiger
Putin never had any interest in going into those other countries. This is and was always about new Russia, and the treatment of Russian speakers on that territory. Russian blood took that land from the Muslims and the Western Ukrainians should have understood that. The war would never have occurred without the language issues and thevdesire to be in NATO.
Posted on 12/9/23 at 1:35 pm to Gaspergou202
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NATO keeps expanding because of Russian aggression against its neighbors.
Nato should have ended in the early 90s. Its nothing but military welfare so European nations can spend on other things.
Posted on 12/9/23 at 1:59 pm to Jax-Tiger
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Russia has taken almost 2 years and 120,000+ KIA to date and they still haven't declared victory against Ukrainian conscripts. Does he have the military strength or political power to invade Finland, Poland, and the Baltic states as people are saying? This seems to be about on par with the claims that Trump will declare himself to be dictator for life if he takes office.
I don’t know why you are getting so many downvotes.
Putin isn’t going to go into Finland or Poland. It’s not a real risk.
Posted on 12/9/23 at 2:10 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Nato should have ended in the early 90s. Its nothing but military welfare so European nations can spend on other things.
I for one am thankful for Nato. Having military bases all over Europe is doing wonders for our men's soccer team.
Posted on 12/9/23 at 3:27 pm to Jax-Tiger
quote:What people are saying that?
Does he have the military strength or political power to invade Finland, Poland, and the Baltic states as people are saying?
Do those people not know that those countries are NATO members and Article 5 would draw NATO troops into direct confrontation with the Russian military?
Russia's next move will involve non-NATO members such as Georgia (Tbilisi not Atlanta), Azerbaijan, Armenia, Kazakhstan, Moldova or Uzbekistan.
Posted on 12/9/23 at 3:30 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Nato should have ended in the early 90s. Its nothing but military welfare so European nations can spend on other things.
Valid arguments can be made for this.
I lean more to the Europeans meet their agreed spending levels or reimburse us the difference. But NATO has value for keeping Europe peaceful without us participating in a Third World War.
But I see and understand your point.
Posted on 12/9/23 at 3:58 pm to Gaspergou202
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I lean more to the Europeans meet their agreed spending levels or reimburse us the difference. But NATO has value for keeping Europe peaceful without us participating in a Third World War.
Guess again. Right now nato has had the opposite affect.
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