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re: If people could be rational, Balkanization is the answer
Posted on 6/9/25 at 2:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 6/9/25 at 2:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
Even peaceful separation you would have to be brain damaged to allow jerkoffistan to sign agreements with China and freeze out your country.
It would quickly turn adversarial and with no military they become easily controlled by their previous compatriots.
It would quickly turn adversarial and with no military they become easily controlled by their previous compatriots.
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 2:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
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People who are anti-California keep trying to turn into violence when it's pointed out how strong Cali could be or how weakened the US would be, when that's the underlying theme of the OP.
Why would you assume that “The Communist Republic of California” would get to keep its ports, military bases, or the Central Valley?
What a dumb premise.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 2:03 pm to Jbird
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Even peaceful separation you would have to be brain damaged to allow jerkoffistan to sign agreements with China and freeze out your country.
You're definitely arguing against Balkanization for the US, especially re: California. I agree with you, it would be pretty disastrous for the US.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 2:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
Lol no it would quickly end poorly for your brethren of the West Coast.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 2:05 pm to Grumpy Nemesis
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France and Germany manage to get along.
Well if you just gloss over the first few decades of the 20th century and most of their history beforehand, sure.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 2:06 pm to Jbird
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Lol no it would quickly end poorly for your brethren of the West Coast.
Which means, what? No Balkanization, I presume.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 2:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
Meh how long does balkanization last?
Posted on 6/9/25 at 2:07 pm to Grumpy Nemesis
Balkanization is the least worst solution to this failed multicultural globohomo experiment.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 2:08 pm to Jbird
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Meh how long does balkanization last?
The implication is permanency, like Serbia, Montenegro, Bosnia, Kosovo, etc.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 2:09 pm to Grumpy Nemesis
The electoral college have some of yall forgetting Trump won the last election by like 2 million votes across a 330 million person country.
The country is generally way more Purple than Red or Blue.
The country is generally way more Purple than Red or Blue.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 2:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
Ok west jerkoffistan can in name continue as it's own country with the counties that want to strike out on their own.
Now with no military and no treaties who do they rely on?
Now with no military and no treaties who do they rely on?
Posted on 6/9/25 at 2:14 pm to Jbird
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Now with no military and no treaties who do they rely on?
I imagine California, Canada, and Mexico would get along just fine and have no problem working out trade deals.
They have military equipment in the state, but have a large enough economy to pay for one if we pretend they have to give it all back. Their economy would be on par with Canada and Mexico, in terms of total GDP
Posted on 6/9/25 at 2:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
None of those assets currently assigned to guard unit are in fact the states assets.
Not a single one
They have zero military assets.
Not a single one
They have zero military assets.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 2:17 pm to Jbird
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None of those assets currently assigned to guard unit are in fact the states assets.
Not a single one
They have zero military assets.
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but have a large enough economy to pay for one if we pretend they have to give it all back. Their economy would be on par with Canada and Mexico, in terms of total GDP
Posted on 6/9/25 at 2:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
So the country waits for them to procure military assets to deny ports and sign deals with China?
Nobody with a brain will wait a decade or two for New Jerkoffistan to buy used former Russian assets to project power.
Nobody with a brain will wait a decade or two for New Jerkoffistan to buy used former Russian assets to project power.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 2:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
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TREND is being reversed. That doesn't mean it automatically flips from negative to positive.
Are you still sticking with this nonsense?
I mean, if I could slow the impacts of time (aging) on my body to half speed, where a minute on the clock only affects me as though I experienced 30 seconds, then have I slowed the aging process, or reversed it?
Come on…admit that you’re wrong…
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No I made a typo. See I can admit it. Contrary to public opinion, I admit when I'm wrong.
This post was edited on 6/9/25 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 6/9/25 at 2:38 pm to Grumpy Nemesis
That's not a solution.
The cancer will just spread to the uninfected area.
Sooner or later you'll have to cut it out or it will kill you.
And now (thanks Obama) we have stage 5 islam.
The cancer will just spread to the uninfected area.
Sooner or later you'll have to cut it out or it will kill you.
And now (thanks Obama) we have stage 5 islam.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 2:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Even in that scenario, which ignores the spirit of OP, the US would lose its entire West Coast access.
Well. I wrote the OP. I'm aware of the West Coast issue. Look there would be issues for every section which is why I said we should be able to do it as rational human beings. We are enough different from each other that we really need to go our own separate ways but we are enough similar to each other that we should be able to relate just like tons of other neighboring countries in the world that have their own sovereignty. It's just that every time people talk about balkanization then seem to think there's a requirement that we become mortal enemies. Which is just silly. I don't think that's required at all or at least it shouldn't be
This post was edited on 6/9/25 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 6/9/25 at 2:46 pm to jimmy the leg
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I mean, if I could slow the impacts of time (aging) on my body to half speed, where a minute on the clock only affects me as though I experienced 30 seconds, then have I slowed the aging process, or reversed it?
That depends on how far you can take it, but that's a bad example as we have no real data on legit age reversal, while population transfers are fluid. You used a 1-way street example and we're discussing a 2-way street scenario.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 2:47 pm to Grumpy Nemesis
No matter what the West Coast entity would be negotiating from a position of weakness.
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