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If meddling in elections is a crime why is rigging an election not?

Posted on 7/17/18 at 7:38 am
Posted by Oddibe
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 7:38 am
The DNC rigged the primaries to guarantee Hillary victory over Bernie. Russians posted some Facebook propaganda.

Even if the Russians hacked the DNC(I still think it was an inside job) they used the DNC’s own words against them, not lies. Whereas the DNC used a fabricated “dossier” to hurt Trump.

Once again I will ask, why is meddling a crime but rigging an election not?
Posted by Chimlim
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 7:39 am to
It is only a crime because the Democrats didn't win the election.
Posted by SidewalkDawg
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 7:40 am to
Election Law does not apply to primaries if I remember correctly. That means as an entity the DNC can rig it however they like.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 7:40 am to
If Hillary has ascended to the White House like everybody expected, we would be hearing about none of this.
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 7:40 am to
In the modern leftist judicial system, what is or is not a crime is largely determined based on the identity and political affiliation of both perp and victim. You see that taken to its logical conclusion in Europe where Muslims get wrist slaps for the most serious felonies while normal people are imprisioned for, well, saying stuff.
Posted by Wtodd
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 7:43 am to
quote:

If Hillary has ascended to the White House like everybody expected, we would be hearing about none of this.

And vodka would be a lot cheaper too
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 7:45 am to
quote:

In the modern leftist judicial system, what is or is not a crime is largely determined based on the identity and political affiliation of both perp and victim.


Nah, it's just the United States Criminal code.

Hacking is a crime. So called "rigging" a presidential primary isn't.
Posted by Godfather1
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 7:46 am to
The DNC is a private organization. They don’t even have to have primaries. They could do it the way they did it for years...nominate a candidate out of a smoke-filled back room.

As 2016 showed, they apparently still do that, anyway. Their primaries are a dog-and-pony show designed to give their base the illusion that they still have a say in the matter.
Posted by Sidicous
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 7:49 am to
It's also malicious prosecution by selective enforcement to ONLY go after shadowy Russkies and not all the DNC involved in the primaries.

Like the other thread with the quotes from Michael Hayden who was CIA/NSA/etc. during the Obamanation, admitting Illegal Actions by the IC but claiming a moral high ground in doing it.

Moral and illegal, 2 words that do NOT go together.

So the DNC rigging their primaries is both illegal and immoral. Once again, there goes the DemProgFilthLibInsane chasing their tails round and round.
Posted by spacewrangler
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 7:52 am to
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Election Law does not apply to primaries if I remember correctly. That means as an entity the DNC can rig it however they like.


But what about the people who donated to the DNC or other DNc candidates that had no legitimate chance due to the rigging. Was that disclosed to them about the DNC? Seems like they should get their money back. Seems like the other candidates who spent their own money and time should be reimbursed as well. I know I would be pissed to find this out. What a scam.
Posted by SidewalkDawg
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 7:54 am to
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But what about the people who donated to the DNC or other DNc candidates that had no legitimate chance due to the rigging. Was that disclosed to them about the DNC? Seems like they should get their money back. Seems like the other candidates who spent their own money and time should be reimbursed as well. I know I would be pissed to find this out. What a scam.


I don't know the specifics, but I would imagine that the DNC has a disclaimer about donations that would cover it.
Posted by Oddibe
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 7:59 am to
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Nah, it's just the United States Criminal code. Hacking is a crime. So called "rigging" a presidential primary isn't.
Have any of the Russians been indicted for hacking? Or have they been indicted for spreading propaganda/meddling?

Is pushing a fake dossier “meddling” or just good political strategy?

Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Communist USA
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 8:31 am to
This 1000% it is mind boggling to me that all this is just skipped over by EVERYONE in power..Do we have laws? Are we actually still a Country with a Constitution?
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:05 am to
quote:

Hacking is a crime.


What about biting on a phishing scam, which is what John Podesta did that got this whole ball rolling?
This post was edited on 7/17/18 at 9:06 am
Posted by Presidio
Member since Nov 2017
3060 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:08 am to
Leftists had no problem when Obama meddled with the Israeli election in an attempt to undermine Bibi
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48294 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:08 am to
What do we call it when our Secretary of State accepts millions of dollars to overthrow a democratically elected foreign government?
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6440 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:10 am to
The rigging of the DNC primary was not a crime because it was Hillary's turn.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:17 am to
quote:

What about biting on a phishing scam, which is what John Podesta did that got this whole ball rolling?


Yes, phishing is a crime under the Computer Fraud and Abuse act.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:18 am to
quote:

Have any of the Russians been indicted for hacking? Or have they been indicted for spreading propaganda/meddling?


Yes, 12 were literally indicted on Friday. Are you in that much of an infowars bubble?
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48270 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:24 am to
Because in the Subjugated USA, a Leftist Authoritarian Puppet of the Globalist Internationalist Leftist World Government, the only serious crimes are political crimes against Der Staat.
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