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If a 25% tariff on any one country can cause this much uproar

Posted on 5/9/19 at 7:57 pm
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 7:57 pm
We might want to rethink our dependence on a foreign nation, a communist one no less. I’m not looking at one party either. This is the stupidity of globalism.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9115 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 8:10 pm to
If we really wanted to "hurt China", we should be doing everything possible here to be lowering compliance costs and red tape on businesses.

Worldwide trade is a good thing. The real problem is that our government makes us compete w/ both hands tied behind our backs.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 8:18 pm to
Trump backed out of twisting China to up the value of the Yuan. He was campaigning on it but gave it up in return for China helping with Kim nk.

Yuan value is the long-term correct approach. It was the reason I was ok with his winning. Like all his big promises he lied.
Wall mexico
Healthcare
China



Posted by MAGA
Member since Sep 2016
581 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 8:18 pm to
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If a 25% tariff on any one country


Same folks are fine with our government taking that percentage from it’s own citizens though.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 8:23 pm to
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Like all his big promises he lied.


You are a liar.
Posted by Skeezer
Member since Apr 2017
2296 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 8:25 pm to
You are an economics simpleton
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
20004 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 8:25 pm to
I’ve spent a lot of time there

They’re really not all that communist.

More fascist, actually.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
28015 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 8:27 pm to
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Same folks are fine with our government taking that percentage from it’s own citizens though.


Don't buy Chinese stuff, you don't pay the tariff.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 8:34 pm to
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You are a liar.


A personal attack instead of facts. Hog indeed.

How about Mexico pays for the wall?

How about actually improving healthcare.
Did you cringe when he pretended we will finally get a replacement that he actually knows about but not for a year? Crock of shite.

Tell us about the Yuan.

You can't address any of his campaigns promises.

Go ahead. Call me names.
You can't deal was the reality.
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 8:49 pm to
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You can't address any of his campaigns promises.


As you cherry pick a few convenient ones that support your position.

You are as transparent as the Caribbean waters that I so enjoy.

Keep flailing at the tempest. Your dismay is amusement.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 9:15 pm to
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We might want to rethink our dependence on a foreign nation, a communist one no less.
Are you under the impression that every time an individual or company purchases something from another individual or company, they are ”buying” something from the nation itself?
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This is the stupidity of globalism.
Apparently people not liking a tax that they have to pay is stupid?
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 9:20 pm to
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Don't buy Chinese stuff, you don't pay the tariff.
Don’t earn an income, you don’t pay the income tax. Don’t buy anything, you don’t pay the sales tax. Don’t own property, you don’t pay the property taxes.

I’m sure you are ok with all of the Ds tax plans (incomes, wealth, etc.) on the higher earners and wealthiest individuals, because they could just make less money or have less wealth.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 9:34 pm to
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Are you under the impression that every time an individual or company purchases something from another individual or company, they are ”buying” something from the nation itself?


Are you under the impression it's the responsibility of the American taxpayer to "prop up" another country ?

When foreign countries end their tariffs against our products and we don't stop retaliatory tariffs , then and only then , will you globalists have a legitimate complaint.

End ALL tariffs.

frick China !
Posted by hoojy
In the fridge with my hot sauce.
Member since Nov 2013
8585 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 9:38 pm to
Shift production inwards and cut off all imports eventually.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
25994 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 9:42 pm to
Global supply chain who are still relying on China are fricked but those who have migrated out of China are the big winners here. With that said China can't survive this if it goes on for an extended time.
Posted by djmicrobe
Planet Earth
Member since Jan 2007
4970 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 9:44 pm to
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Healthcare


McCain campaigned on repeal Nobamacare. McCain voted to keep this atrocity.
Not trump's fault.

Paul Ryan and McConnel could have put money in a bill to build the wall. They told Trump they would do it during the "lame duck" session. They did not. Not trump's fault.
Posted by ItNeverRains
37069
Member since Oct 2007
25478 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 9:48 pm to
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Worldwide trade is a good thing. The real problem is that our government makes us compete w/ both hands tied behind our backs.


But globalism is not possible without dependence on foreign nations. Why do you hate Communist Asian regimes? You must be a white Christian male.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 9:59 pm to
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Are you under the impression it's the responsibility of the American taxpayer to "prop up" another country ?
Well I had been under the impression that in a free society people should be able to purchase things—so long that they’re legal—from whomever they want for whatever reason they want without government intervening and artificially driving up prices.
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When foreign countries end their tariffs against our products and we don't stop retaliatory tariffs , then and only then , will you globalists have a legitimate complaint.
I don’t pay for another country’s tariffs; it’s a tax on their citizens. I do pay for my country’s tarrif’s; it’s a tax on me.

So unless we aren’t allowed to complain about our taxes, then it’s as legitimate of a complaint as any other tax.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260877 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 10:04 pm to
Would you complain if your taxes were raised to subsidize specific industries?


Essentially, that's what's happening. People complain when the left does it, but it's ok now?
This post was edited on 5/9/19 at 10:06 pm
Posted by LSUneaux
NOLA
Member since Mar 2014
4490 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 10:06 pm to
Looking forward to these tariffs! Go Trump!
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